Re: Objective vs Subjective Morality
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:41 am
@brimstoneSalad I've noticed that you are now on good footing with Ask Yourself, your beef with him has been squashed, which is really good to hear. However, I did want to ask you the following questions on the matter, feel free to address them if you think they're worthwhile:
1) I'm not sure if you've seen Ask Yourself's "debunk" of your wiki pages, but what are your thoughts on his dismissal of criticism insofar as the NTT syllogism goes? His reasons were (1) he didn't "intend" the argument to be a formal argument, and (2) he didn't know anything about propositional logic, if I recall correctly. These reasons are terrible, and I doubt Ask Yourself is naive enough to think that they are sufficient. Not to mention the fact that the way he set out NTT was in a perfect setting for a typical formal argument, I think he's being dishonest with himself.
If anyone but Ask Yourself himself did this, then they would face such a terrible backlash and consistent humiliation. Since it's Ask Yourself, many people do not bat an eye to such a ludicrous statement, it's almost like it never happened.
2) Has Ask Yourself conceded that the original NTT syllogism was invalid, especially now that he understands more about formal logic?
He's quick to point out the invalidity of many competing formal arguments, be it with people like Superhumandance or Magnus. He obviously has an eye for this kind of thing now, I'd be surprised if he failed to spot the errors in his old ways, unless he's too stuck up to admit his faults?
1) I'm not sure if you've seen Ask Yourself's "debunk" of your wiki pages, but what are your thoughts on his dismissal of criticism insofar as the NTT syllogism goes? His reasons were (1) he didn't "intend" the argument to be a formal argument, and (2) he didn't know anything about propositional logic, if I recall correctly. These reasons are terrible, and I doubt Ask Yourself is naive enough to think that they are sufficient. Not to mention the fact that the way he set out NTT was in a perfect setting for a typical formal argument, I think he's being dishonest with himself.
If anyone but Ask Yourself himself did this, then they would face such a terrible backlash and consistent humiliation. Since it's Ask Yourself, many people do not bat an eye to such a ludicrous statement, it's almost like it never happened.
2) Has Ask Yourself conceded that the original NTT syllogism was invalid, especially now that he understands more about formal logic?
He's quick to point out the invalidity of many competing formal arguments, be it with people like Superhumandance or Magnus. He obviously has an eye for this kind of thing now, I'd be surprised if he failed to spot the errors in his old ways, unless he's too stuck up to admit his faults?