Detector in tact. To me it was just a bit of a coincidence reading the same word combination within a short time period.brimstoneSalad wrote:Your sarcasm detector is faulty. That was somebody making fun of it.
Religion, Moral, Ethics and Veganism
- Jebus
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Re: Religion, Moral, Ethics and Veganism
How to become vegan in 4.5 hours:
1.Watch Forks over Knives (Health)
2.Watch Cowspiracy (Environment)
3. Watch Earthlings (Ethics)
Congratulations, unless you are a complete idiot you are now a vegan.
1.Watch Forks over Knives (Health)
2.Watch Cowspiracy (Environment)
3. Watch Earthlings (Ethics)
Congratulations, unless you are a complete idiot you are now a vegan.
- brimstoneSalad
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I've definitely seen the claim often, but usually coming from diehard carnists trying to malign animal advocacy. It's definitely a common stereotype, but one that I've never seen to be true.Jebus wrote:Detector in tact. To me it was just a bit of a coincidence reading the same word combination within a short time period.brimstoneSalad wrote:Your sarcasm detector is faulty. That was somebody making fun of it.
Now there are some people who just hate humans, but I think that's rather something different. Like the OOS crowd. That's real, and perhaps more disturbing.
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Well, Gary Yourofsky, for one, a hard core vegan advocate claims himself to be a misanthrope. Many vegans in YouTube have said how much they hated humans. That carnists deserve to die. That they would save animals instead of humans. I haven't seen many vegans sending an opposite message to that. On the contrary, those that tend to be more "hippie" (for the lack of a better word) end up saying things like, although they don't agree with those extremists views, people have to understand vegan hatred to this carnist humanity. Perhaps I am listening the wrong channel.
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Yep, you're definitely listening to the wrong channels.
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or just the only one there is... because I keep trying to find new ones, and they just aren't there... That's why I do not use the word ethic in regards to veganism.
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Where are you looking?vegan81vzla wrote:or just the only one there is... because I keep trying to find new ones, and they just aren't there... That's why I do not use the word ethic in regards to veganism.
Are you using "channels" literally or figuratively?
Have you read the thread on Francione and Deontology?
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well, that is why I joined this group, to see if there was another view on veganism rather than the one spread by the vegan community/propaganda... I am on Reading the thread... though it is quite long...
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Well, here's at least one youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/FitOnRaw
There are several others, but I'm not very hip to the youtube thing yet. Working on it.
In terms of mainstream philosophers, you may have heard of Peter Singer: he recognizes that on average humans are more important than non-human animals. He's a consequentialist, rather than a deontologist.
Unfortunately, the very loud voice of deontology tends to dominate a lot of the vegan advocacy, and the fact that those irrational views are often simpler catchy phrases.
https://www.youtube.com/user/FitOnRaw
There are several others, but I'm not very hip to the youtube thing yet. Working on it.
In terms of mainstream philosophers, you may have heard of Peter Singer: he recognizes that on average humans are more important than non-human animals. He's a consequentialist, rather than a deontologist.
Unfortunately, the very loud voice of deontology tends to dominate a lot of the vegan advocacy, and the fact that those irrational views are often simpler catchy phrases.