How do I survive for a year?

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UltimateGhost
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Re: How do I survive for a year?

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garrethdsouza wrote:Could you get into trouble from internet service providers? Do they monitor the internet? In which case you could use vpns or apparently browsers like tor. https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en you'd still have to delete your history I think
I don't want to run away, even though this is major child abuse. At least my mum is currently not considering sending me to the Daara for a full year, where I wouldn't learn at all.
Why not? Why put up with such major child abuse?

Reminds me of wives who make excuses for not leaving their wife beating husbands. Why put up with such abuse? You should contemplate more, what future do you anticipate? If they've already forced you to live in another country and to study religious material forcibly that you don't want to at the expense of your education, where do you think they will stop? It seems like they may not allow you to live life on your own terms but will progressively introduce more constraints. How do you know they wouldn't force something else on you next, at what point will you draw a line? Freedom is important, its not sufficient if they mean well for you but are going to such extreme measures already.
I agree. perhaps I should run away, but then if they find me again I will certainly get sent back here. I think I might want to follow Jebus's plan. While no plan is foolproof ,I think it would be safest to wait until I am completely financially independent to tell them I am a nonbeliever.
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Re: How do I survive for a year?

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UltimateGhost wrote: I agree. perhaps I should run away, but then if they find me again I will certainly get sent back here.
Well... if they try to put you on a plane, you can always go nuclear and get yourself (and your whole family) put on the no-fly list. Running away is a better option. It would really suck to never be able to travel by air again. But if you really don't have a choice...
UltimateGhost wrote: I think I might want to follow Jebus's plan.
It's a good idea to try. Though like we said, it's a long shot. But at least you could find out if there's any chance of doing anything about it from a legal perspective.
UltimateGhost wrote:While no plan is foolproof ,I think it would be safest to wait until I am completely financially independent to tell them I am a nonbeliever.
I would not tell them that. At all. Ever. At least, not until you're 18.
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Re: How do I survive for a year?

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If you tell them that, another thing is they can try emotionally blackmailing you by saying your family will get ostracized in the community and what not. They will probably try to keep you in their clutches *some way or the other* and make it look like what freedom you have to give up is trivial; are arranged marriage business also the norm?. They already had you defending them despite such high levels of abject non consensual treatment involving being grounded in another freaking country and forced to undertake scriptural sessions you had never accepted taking. Based on this I really doubt they'd react liberally and allow you to have a carte blanche approach later on either.

What do you hope to achieve in telling them your views and decisions about the rest of your lifes' beliefs if this is the way your mom reacts to a few YouTube videos? Maybe you could write to ex Muslims organizations for advice or something? You are an American citizen right?
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Re: How do I survive for a year?

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Oh, here's the topic about the person who I mentioned here: https://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1567

Hey, he was on the forum October 30th.

So anyone know what happened?
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