Is Homophobia Natural?

[Red]

So I was thinking about evolution and producing offspring one day, and I thought "Maybe, JUST maybe, we are homophobic because we know homosexuals can't produce offspring." I mean, I'm still not sure whether we just have sex for pleasure, or if we have sex to create offspring and the feeling motivates us to do it. But hey, this may explain homophobia in religions and people. I dunno, I could be 100% wrong here. But at the same time, it's probably the most sane thing you've ever heard. So, bottom line, my theory is that people are homophobic because an instinct in us knows that they are useless in producing offspring, and as such, results in homophobia. I mean, I hope we're all tolerant and accepting of homosexuals at this point since we don't rely on instinct as much anymore. I mean it's pretty much the same reason for veganism, so, y'know, maybe. And I'm not sure if it happens anywhere else in the animal kingdom, so. So what do you think? Am I insane or is this hypothesis the most sane and reasonable thing you've ever heard? Or is this just common knowledge that I am ignorant of? Lemme know!

[EquALLity]

Well, I don't know. But why does it matter if it's 'natural' (how are you defining 'natural' anyway?)?

Are you just wondering why homophobia exists?
Because 'natural' doesn't = acceptable, obviously.

[Red]

Well, I don't know. But why does it matter if it's 'natural' (how are you defining 'natural' anyway?)?

I'm just saying maybe instinct tells us to be homophobic. I am in no way condoning it.

Are you just wondering why homophobia exists?
Because 'natural' doesn't = acceptable, obviously.

Refer to statement above.

[knot]

Probably, I'd guess it's a basic group psychology thing

Deviant sexuality (gay person) ---> seen by others as a threat to group cohesion (and thereby a threat to their own existence) ---> emotional response (homophobia)

[ThatNerdyScienceGirl]

Homophobia, Ableism, Sexism, Racism, and even Heterophobia, or any kind of bigotry directed towards "privileged" people, fat shaming, thin shaming, male shaming, etc, etc, are all natural. Now don't get me wrong, "Natural" doesn't mean it's "Right," Cyanide is Natural, doesn't mean it's good for you.

Racism, sexism, etc, stems from this Us Vs. Them dichotomy of ignorance that happens when someone is ignorant of someone else's difference in one way or another. Thinking gays cause AID's or teach children buttsex, for example, are forms of how ignorance breeds hate. Seeing news articles about terrorists and taking out your fear and anger on all people of middle eastern decent. Claiming that all of societies issues are the blame of white people, or men, or straight people, is also caused by ignorance of the truth driving the same kind of bigotry many bestow upon Jewish people.

Is Ignorance Natural? Yes. Is it Natural to be angsty or feel odd around something you are either unsure about or were lied about? Yes. Children's movies are a big example of this, take The Box Trolls for example. Everyone in the town were afraid of Box Trolls due to lies spread about them, what helped stop this bigotry? Exposure.

Like with victims of OCD and other kinds of anxiety, the only way to lower or eliminate anxiety is to be exposed to the trigger that causes the fear. Be it spiders, snakes, balloons, or gays.

Otherwise you could just not like a stereotypical trait that you associate all people with. For instance, not liking highly feminine gay guys, but having no real issue with guys being in a romantic relationship. But you associate being gay with being feminine, so although it is still ignorance, it is not based on fear, it's based on annoyance.

But like I said, Natural =/= Moral.

That's just my analysis as someone who studied a ton of Psychology, I am welcome to counter-arguments.

[brimstoneSalad]

In the case of men, it probably has more to do with the occasional use of the poop chute.

Poop is 'gross'; while that's not necessarily something that's programmed into us, it is at least strongly culturally conditioned, and the smell may be at least somewhat off putting by nature (although it's also natural to practice coprophagy, so maybe not).
When people imagine gay sex in ignorance, they may associate it with that most of all, thus putting off people for reasons beyond simple religious conservatism.

[Mateo3112]

In the case of men, it probably has more to do with the occasional use of the poop chute.

By "The use of the poop chute" you mean anal sex? but heterosexuals also do that, so why would it be different for homosexuals?
If anal sex was wrong concieved and "Gross" for most people, then it'd make sense, but people do that all the time, so i don't think that's the main reason for homophobia.
Christians however, do believe it is wrong to have anal sex, so they might be a different story.

[brimstoneSalad]

By "The use of the poop chute" you mean anal sex? but heterosexuals also do that, so why would it be different for homosexuals?

I think because it's the archetype people have in mind.

As missionary style is primarily what people think of when they imagine hetrosexual sex, anal is what most think of when they imagine male homosexual sex.

but people do that all the time, so i don't think that's the main reason for homophobia.
Christians however, do believe it is wrong to have anal sex, so they might be a different story.

How common is it, really? I'm not sure. That's a good point, though, if it's very common.

[thetruemasterofgames]

Well alot of the time humans are afraid on what they do not understand or falls away from their acepted norm due to such hatred and fear could both spawn from a lack of understanding as some people seem to think homoseuality is just a way of being a satanist ignorance as usual in a way yes it is natural but in a way no as it is all dependant on what you are around as a standard norm anouther example would fall into the animal kingdom an animal raised around people may accept being around them where as one that was raised in the wild will be more hostile due to fear
As well as the part about is sex for pleasure or reproduction well when you look at today society statistically sex is rarely used in attempt to make a child which why abortion rates go up every year (note I am going by stuff I have found in searches and readings in the past I welcome any evidence otherwise)