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gatilloti
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Questions from a meat eater

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I do eat meat, I try to eat the least I can, because
A-) I know animals feel
B-) I do understand that our kind (human) should take care of the world problems because we are the only species aware of the changes that happen on earth, most our fault.

Now the question here is ethical I guess, for example right now I´m not independent, and sometimes I live with my mom, others with my aunt or roommates, and we divide the food so its easier to afford, so I don´t feel ok if my change of diet would affect those people.
When I´m with roommates is when I can eat less meat (because I´m the one who goes to buy food with my roommate), and even those times my mom sends me food, so back again, I don´t feel ok if my mom made me something to not eat it.

And about the well treated animals, there is actually a brand of food that treat them "well" meaning they live free in "potreros" and are kill with drugs, so it should be a temporary solution or is it still inmoral? and why?
The question being made by the point of "animals eating animals" or is it still inmoral if I know its not a company that kill millions of animals, just enough for that market in my country? And is a small market and my country is already really small.

And also about the nutrition fact, I do know people can survive without animal food, but would it be better if before I change my diet I go to a nutritionist?

sorry for the bad english, and I do appreciate if people answer respectfully :D
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brimstoneSalad
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Re: Questions from a meat eater

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gatilloti wrote: Now the question here is ethical I guess, for example right now I´m not independent, and sometimes I live with my mom, others with my aunt or roommates, and we divide the food so its easier to afford, so I don´t feel ok if my change of diet would affect those people.
At first it may seems like you're causing them an inconvenience, but if you do this they will probably eat more vegetarian foods, which would most likely improve their health and help them live longer. Particularly if your meals are mainly based on beans, vegetables, and whole grain foods.

Beans are also one of the cheapest foods, so you may find that you are all saving money by eating more beans rather than meat.
gatilloti wrote: When I´m with roommates is when I can eat less meat (because I´m the one who goes to buy food with my roommate), and even those times my mom sends me food, so back again, I don´t feel ok if my mom made me something to not eat it.
If you change to a vegetarian diet at home, then your mom will know to send you some vegetarian foods instead.
Otherwise, I suggest you give that to your roommate (it's bad to waste, of course, but if you mom forgot and sent you the wrong thing you could give it to others instead of wasting).
gatilloti wrote: And about the well treated animals, there is actually a brand of food that treat them "well" meaning they live free in "potreros" and are kill with drugs, so it should be a temporary solution or is it still inmoral? and why?
It's not really good treatment, since the animals are still killed, and die very young (do not live full lives). If you were to eat an animal which died 'naturally', that might be another matter, but that kind of meat is not available.

Just ask yourself if you would think that life was good; to be raised for food and killed when you were a teenager?
Even a painless death is not desirable. Is it OK to kill human beings if done painlessly?
The reason it's wrong to kill is not just the pain, but because we don't want to die.

Also, an important thing to remember: meat production is still harmful to the environment, and wasteful of food, especially if the animals live longer and are treated better.

The size of the company doesn't matter, it just matters the consequence of this kind of behavior.
100 small companies are not better than one large company. The bad effects from all of the small companies still add up.
gatilloti wrote: And also about the nutrition fact, I do know people can survive without animal food, but would it be better if before I change my diet I go to a nutritionist?
That shouldn't be necessary. "nutritionist" is not a protected title in most places, so they may not have good qualifications.

Here are some registered dietitians (qualified people):

http://www.theveganrd.com/7-habits-of-h ... thy-vegans
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/dailyrecs

There's a lot of free advice available. So, usually you just need to see a dietitian if you have problems.
The nutrition elements aren't too difficult, particularly for humans. Just make sure to eat lots of beans, and take your vitamins. You can see the pages above for help.

You can also use sites like cronometer to help you make sure you're getting all of your nutrients.

https://cronometer.com/

Sign up, and put in the food you eat, and you can see if you are low on anything.

Please feel to post here about your diet, and we can help you with suggestions.
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