For Or Against Legalization of Marijuana?

[brimstoneSalad]

I don't think he's inherently wrong. All drugs have side effects.
THC has use potential (reduce anxiety, relieve chronic pain, increase appetite for people with chemotherapy, etc.), and within those valid uses it's a legit medication that a healthcare provider has to weigh against the side effects in any case.

Using any drug recreationally is not really a good idea.

The more important thing is that the side effects of THC use are usually more personal, and less systemic. It doesn't usually cause people to become violent or to commit crimes to acquire more drug (due to the low addictivity), and driving under its influence is less dangerous than alcohol (for example, as far as I understand it). So, for those reasons, particularly if alcohol (which is much worse) is legal, so should be Marijuana.

"70% of tobacco sales in NY state are from the black market"

That's an interesting point. Might be worth making a thread on.

[EquALLity]

I don't think he's inherently wrong.

What do you mean by inherently wrong?

Using any drug recreationally is not really a good idea.

I'm assuming you're not including caffeine in this?

I'm also assuming that with marijuana (not with smoking it though) that using it very occasionally isn't really an issue, and that possible negative effects come with more heavy usage.

The more important thing is that the side effects of THC use are usually more personal, and less systemic. It doesn't usually cause people to become violent or to commit crimes to acquire more drug (due to the low addictivity), and driving under its influence is less dangerous than alcohol (for example, as far as I understand it). So, for those reasons, particularly if alcohol (which is much worse) is legal, so should be Marijuana.

I believe he said that marijuana can cause stuff like that. I think his example was car accidents.

Do you agree that marijuana really has a good chance of lowering your IQ by 8 points etc.?

"70% of tobacco sales in NY state are from the black market"

That's an interesting point. Might be worth making a thread on.

Do you think it's a valid point on his end? I don't really see why, since that would be 100% if tobacco was illegal.
I'll make that thread soon.

Do you think cartels would just find something else to replace marijuana with if it was legalized?

[thetruemasterofgames]

Well when it comes to if its good or bad to use marijuana it varies depending on the situation and person. Depending on pre existing conditions and defects it could severely mess with you against most belief it is addictive but not the drug itself the process of it closing off the other chemicals in the brain to nearly nothing in contrast to magnifying that witch controls happiness can be addictive because are brain associates that joy with the drug depending on the person their conditions and where when and how often they use it effects my opinion on the subject because it can be harmful beneficial or neither

[Dizzy]

MARIJUANA IS A DANGEROUS GATEWAY DRUG PLACED BY THE DEVIL TO TEMPT YOU AND BESIDES ITS' ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[brimstoneSalad]

What do you mean by inherently wrong?

As a matter of most of his reasoning, probably. There are open empirical questions around most of this, and the rhetoric makes them hard to answer.

I'm assuming you're not including caffeine in this?

Caffeine has legitimate uses that have utility: e.g. waking people up, and increasing productivity.
If it were merely recreational, I wouldn't agree with it.

I believe he said that marijuana can cause stuff like that. I think his example was car accidents.

Do you agree that marijuana really has a good chance of lowering your IQ by 8 points etc.?

These are plausible arguments. I think we'd need more study.

Do you think it's a valid point on his end? I don't really see why, since that would be 100% if tobacco was illegal.
I'll make that thread soon.

I think we since talked about the differences between decriminalizing something and making it legal.

Do you think cartels would just find something else to replace marijuana with if it was legalized?

They might. They would try, but they wouldn't necessarily succeed. It would be hard to beat weed.

[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

MARIJUANA IS A DANGEROUS GATEWAY DRUG PLACED BY THE DEVIL TO TEMPT YOU AND BESIDES ITS' ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

He is joking, right? Or is this when Dizzy was troll?

I am all for to make weed legal as it causes a lower rate of deaths than alcoholic beverages and it has medicinal properties as well - for instance it can treat cancer. I smoke weed occasionally but more often I eat it in cookies. It helps me to relax and sometimes I see visions. In my opinion, weed is not the problem! It is legal drugs who are more problematic, I say that you should make it so that it is legal to drink responsibly. And you must show all the side effects and the ingredients of cigarettes on the packet. By the way - the forum is green now, is that to celebrate weed or because you are Vegan lol?