EU Referendum - Brexit

[TheSpiritualist243]

On the 23rd of June Britain will either leave or stay in the EU.

I think we should leave. Here's why:

1) We'll be taxed to death. The EU will force us to give until we can't pay them anymore.

2) The British flag is ours, not the EU's

3) People gave their lives to make this country ours. And now we're just going to hand all that hard work to the EU?

Agree with me?If not, I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions!

#Brexit

[knot]

I hope you will leave, although I doubt it will happen, even if the current polls show that the vote to leave is in front. I'm pretty confident they will find some way to tamper with the vote in the last second, similar to what happened in Austria.

I don't see many good reasons to stay, given that there doesn't seem to conclusively be any economic benefit to being a member from the studies I've glanced over. The European countries that aren't part of the EU seem to be doing perfectly fine. On climate change, I don't know if the EU is good or bad.

What I do think is very clear is that the EU doesn't give two shits about the opinion of European citizens, but that it only answers to the big multinationals. That's one of the main reasons it has been erecting mosques funded by Saudi petrol dollars and importing hordes of unassimilable 3rd world Muslims since the 80's --- to drive down the cost of labor and push for lower minimum wages. The people who have been hit the hardest by this are of course the working class, who now have trouble finding jobs and places to live. That's also the main reason why you don't see left-wing parties winning elections anymore, and why people increasingly despise the EU.

On a sociological or psychological level I also think national identity has utility, but the EU systematically attempts to dismantle these identities. Belgium itself is a very divided country with a weak national identity, and I don't see it as a coincidence that Bruxelles is now a hotbed for Islamic terrorism. A country with a weak identity will cease to be or be taken over by a culture that is not afraid to assert itself. It's humorous to me that EU's headquarters are located in Bruxelles, as it's a city where you now need fully armed soldiers in the street just to protect Jewish schools.

All in all, Angela Merkel and her neo-feudal, multicultural, Marxist hell project should kindly fuck off.

[EquALLity]

All in all, Angela Merkel and her neo-feudal, multicultural, Marxist hell project should kindly fuck off.

Multicultural... Multiple cultures together? Ok then...
Oh, you probably meant that they're tolerant towards Muslims, or something. I know Germany has accepted a lot of Syrian refugees who were fleeing for their lives. How horrible.

Marxist? Seriously? Angela Merkel is a Marxist?

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[brimstoneSalad]

Thunderf00t made an interesting video on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33BDDAUV8vg

[knot]

Multicultural... Multiple cultures together? Ok then...
Oh, you probably meant that they're tolerant towards Muslims, or something. I know Germany has accepted a lot of Syrian refugees

It was really just Angela Merkel who forced the Germans to accept the "refugees" against their will. A lot of Germans are pathologically altruistic and endlessly guilt-tripping over WWII, but most are still smart enough to realize that Muslims pose an existential threat to their culture, and they don't feel like spending billions of taxpayers' money on their own destruction.

who were fleeing for their lives.

Some of them. Most are welfare tourists from random countries in North Africa and the Middle East. No screening was done at all, so there are probably plenty of terrorist cells in the country now as well.

How horrible.

Finally we agree! It is horrible, but I think we're only three or four terrorist attacks away from Islam getting banned altogether. Then everything will eventually be fine again

Marxist? Seriously? Angela Merkel is a Marxist?

Probably. She grew up in East Germany and is fluent in Russian, after all ;P

[EquALLity]

but I think we're only three or four terrorist attacks away from Islam getting banned altogether. Then everything will eventually be fine again

...I give up. >.<

[miniboes]

I honestly haven't researched this enough to give you an advise. However, I think the arguments you make here are pretty bad.

1) As the Thunderf00t video illustrates pretty well, the EU is not that expensive for the UK and is most likely a net gain economically.

2) i don't know why this means you should leave. You can have your own flag. What's the problem here?

3) People lost their lives for all sorts of causes. That doesn't mean those causes are right. Also, you're not handing the UK over to the EU; it's not a federation. As demonstrated by the fact that you have the option to leave if you want, your country still has great autonomy.

Thanks for the link, Brimstone, that's a pretty good video.

I don't know exactly how, but I feel a very strong need to do much more research on the merits and demerits of the EU and membership. I might post here in a while with my findings.

[knot]

but I think we're only three or four terrorist attacks away from Islam getting banned altogether. Then everything will eventually be fine again

...I give up. >.<

Don't be shocked when it happens. It's not a matter of *if*, but *when*

[EquALLity]

but I think we're only three or four terrorist attacks away from Islam getting banned altogether. Then everything will eventually be fine again

...I give up. >.<

Don't be shocked when it happens. It's not a matter of *if*, but *when*

Only if anti-Muslim radicals get their way, which I really hope doesn't happen.

[TheSpiritualist243]

I honestly haven't researched this enough to give you an advise. However, I think the arguments you make here are pretty bad.

1) As the Thunderf00t video illustrates pretty well, the EU is not that expensive for the UK and is most likely a net gain economical

Thunderf00t is not correct. The EU will tax us and tax us. I assume you're probably just an American who has done little research.

2) i don't know why this means you should leave. You can have your own flag. What's the problem here?

The EU will own most stuff of ours. EU politicians have their own shops. And Communism is something I forgot to mention (not that it has anything to do with the reply)

3) People lost their lives for all sorts of causes. That doesn't mean those causes are right. Also, you're not handing the UK over to the EU; it's not a federation. As demonstrated by the fact that you have the option to leave if you want, your country still has great autonomy.

We've beat the Romans, The Germans and more. And people were killed to make this country ours. And the EU will make our country part of the EU so it wont be ours and the people who fought off invaders did it all for nothing.