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On Dave Rubin

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Pretty good critical video on Dave Rubin.. I think I agree with most of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r7LWEeYSYk

I don't watch many of his interviews anymore, as I think they have become one-sided, boring and predictable. He's also far too agreeable, and doesn't call out or challenge his guests the way Sam Harris might do

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It may be my confirmation bias speaking, but I also agree with a lot of it. I started following Dave Rubin because I thought he would be a rational voice on political matters. He isn't.
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My criticism of Rubin is in line with what UV said in her mukbang video. He presents himself as a new center, but in truth he's at a far end of both the economic and the social spectrum. He swapped one ideology for another rather than realizing we need to be pragmatic about policy.

His interviewing style combines two very elements that combine to be very toxic; a) giving a platform to anyone and b) providing no pushback at all. He should either be more selective in who he invites or ask more critical questions, because right now he's probably doing a lot of harm.
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Good video, I largely agree.

I think calling yourself a "classical liberal" as if that's the same as a moderate democrat is one of the most dishonest things you can do as a journalist.
The "we have no idea what Trump will do as President even though he was a douche-bag the entire campaign and nominated lunatics to the cabinet" is a close second... I mean, you're a journalist. You're supposed to give analysis, not ignore everything we know about politics and a given politician.
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That was a pretty good video.

The difficulty of judging Trump before he started to sign executive orders and appoint people is that he was constantly contradicting himself and had no political track record. Of course, it wasn't hard to determine that Hillary was a better candidate, but there were and frankly still are a lot of unknowns about Trump.

Trump may be the best Republican to have in office (the least bad), since he has in the past advocated universal healthcare and that's still a talking point of his -- that everybody will be covered. He may be nuts, but he's putting the Republicans in a difficult position, and may be forcing them to be more compromising on this issue since he's supporting some of the key parts of the Affordable Care Act.
Any other Republican might have just trashed it all. Although it's hard to say if that would have worked given the momentum the ACA has now.

He's also the least competent, and when you have somebody with mostly bad policies, lack of competence is a silver lining.
If Democrats and progressives can actually unite in the next election cycle over sensible moderate liberal candidates, it's possible the country can be taken back in a big way.
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