The Ideas of Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber) & Preventing The Fascist Creep

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The Ideas of Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber) & Preventing The Fascist Creep

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I'm planning to have a discussion with a primitivist where I hope to plant some seeds of critical thinking that may help him out of the ideology years down the line or at least some viewers. We're still writing our notes for how we want the discussion to be structured, so I'd love to read any suggestions in the mean time. Check out the google doc linked below:

https://docs.google.com/...CT2Y8/

And here's a preview:
There are far-left primitivists who think primitive life will be one of peace and few work-hours, then centrist-primitivists who are just anti-social egoists, then I’d say to the degree you understand primitive life is one of indifference for the disabled, etc. And you still desire it, then I’d say you’re on the anti-egalitarian right-wing of politics at least in that one aspect.

It is confused by the fact I view anti-industrial society as an irrational political foundation for achieving your desires, but to the extent there are these irrational rabbit holes people can fall down anywhere on the political spectrum, they can act as a worrying kind of wormhole which fast tracks people to diametrically opposite political positions.

So how this can happen on the far-left is if you’re struggling with the contradictions of having say a personal trauma which leads you to anti-industrialist politics + far-leftism which isn’t inherently against people finding value in highly technical work. So you might be worried that you could be overthrowing the current government, but will still be socially alienated from a demeaning factory work job, that is just slightly more democratic. And then from that point, find more common cause with anarcho-capitalists for just desiring to hoard what they can and kill anyone who comes onto their property, or fascists who want to hoard all the wealth for white people say.
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Re: The Ideas of Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber) & Preventing The Fascist Creep

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Here's a mock debate I did to practice:

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https://youtu.be/Dnv--eley9k

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