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Re: Vaccine hesitancy

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Red wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:56 pm
teo123 wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:05 am
Red wrote:And even with that, there were still fewer excess deaths in 2022 than in the previous years.
Really? In previous years, Iceland had more than 55% excess mortality in July?
I'm talking globally here Teo, not just one country with a population of less than four hundred thousand.

Even before July, a lot of the excess deaths were due to COVID (though in a country with such a small population, that still only comes out to less than a few hundred excess deaths).
https://island.is/en/news/deaths-in-ice ... e-epidemic
Don't you think deaths from COVID-19 are being grossly overcounted these days? I mean, most countries, including presumably Iceland, use the deaths with confirmed COVID-19 as a proxy for the deaths from COVID-19. While I have no doubt that made sense early in the pandemic, how can it possibly make sense now when almost all COVID-19 cases are Omicron cases? Omicron is basically common cold. There have, as far as I understand it, been no deaths that have been confirmed to really be from Omicron. There have been deaths that have been confirmed to have been from Delta, but not from Omicron. As such, claiming that a lot of deaths are due to Omicron makes about as much sense as claiming that a lot of deaths are due to common cold, and it destroys your credibility.
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Re: Vaccine hesitancy

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Also, what do you guys think, who is more irresponsible, anti-vaxxers or anti-gun people? I have written on my blog that I think they are about equally irresponsible:
https://flatassembler.github.io/let_it_rip wrote:Also, ask yourself, how irresponsible are anti-vaxxers really, compared to other irresponsible things people do? Could it be that being against COVID-19 vaccination is only as irresponsible as being anti-gun? COVID-19 vaccinations are estimated to have saved around 300'000 lives in 2021 in the USA. According to the famous study done by Gary Kleck in 1995, guns also save around 300'000 lives each year in the USA. Yet you don't hear nearly as much pro-gun propaganda as you hear pro-vaccine propaganda.
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Re: Vaccine hesitancy

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What do you guys think of the anti-vaxxer claim that the number of young athletes who died of heart attacks and cardiac arrests increased sharply after the introduction of COVID-19 vaccination? Until today, I thought all anti-vaxxers have for that is anecdotal evidence and that there hasn't been an actual increase, but today I bumped into this: https://amg-news.com/athletes-who-have- ... ccination/
So, what do you think about that?
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