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Pride The Solo King wrote:You seem evil.
In some sense, he is about the closest you may ever see to innate evil. Look into psychopathy and sadism. Sadistic psychopaths (literal ones, not like when it's used figuratively as an insult), feel no empathy for others and inherently enjoy causing pain and suffering. They're more highly represented in prison populations, and the vast majority of serial killers are sadistic and psychopathic.

One or the other (psychopathy or sadism) isn't as severe. Since a non-psychopathic sadist will usually try to find people who enjoy getting hurt, or favor simulated violence that doesn't make them feel bad. And a psychopath who isn't sadistic just doesn't care one way or the other, so will usually not harm others just because it's not convenient to do so (as opposed to a sadist, who enjoys the suffering and will go out of his or her [usually his] way to cause it).
Pride The Solo King wrote:In India, you would be arrested for eating a cow. Just saiyan.
In some parts of India (not all) it's illegal to slaughter cows. I don't think it's illegal to eat them, though. Can you provide a reference? If this is so, I would be interested to read about it.
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brimstoneSalad wrote:
Pride The Solo King wrote:You seem evil.
In some sense, he is about the closest you may ever see to innate evil. Look into psychopathy and sadism. Sadistic psychopaths (literal ones, not like when it's used figuratively as an insult), feel no empathy for others and inherently enjoy causing pain and suffering. They're more highly represented in prison populations, and the vast majority of serial killers are sadistic and psychopathic.

One or the other (psychopathy or sadism) isn't as severe. Since a non-psychopathic sadist will usually try to find people who enjoy getting hurt, or favor simulated violence that doesn't make them feel bad. And a psychopath who isn't sadistic just doesn't care one way or the other, so will usually not harm others just because it's not convenient to do so (as opposed to a sadist, who enjoys the suffering and will go out of his or her [usually his] way to cause it).
Pride The Solo King wrote:In India, you would be arrested for eating a cow. Just saiyan.
In some parts of India (not all) it's illegal to slaughter cows. I don't think it's illegal to eat them, though. Can you provide a reference? If this is so, I would be interested to read about it.
He reminds me of a non psychopathic sadist, or just natural evil.
Karnataka[edit]
The Karnataka Prevention of Cow Slaughter and Cattle Preservation Act, 1964 governs the slaughter of cattle in the state. Slaughter of cow, calf of a cow (male or female) or calf of a she-buffalo totally prohibited. Slaughter of bulls, bullocks and adult buffaloes is permitted on obtaining a "fit-for-slaughter" certificate provided cattle is over 12 years of age or is permanently incapacitated for breeding, draught or milk due to injury, deformity or any other cause. Transport for slaughter to a place outside the State not permitted. Sale, purchase or disposal of a cow or a calf, for slaughter, is not permitted.

Anyone violating the law can be punished with imprisonment up to maximum of 6 months or fine of up to ₹1,000 or both. The crime is treated as a cognizable offence
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Sorry for not replying for a while.

#4 from prior post: I just think that mass genocide would be pretty fun and interesting. Humans are going to go extinct eventually, why not now?

1: Yeah, i realize humans can also be eaten. I'd try human any day.
2: Yeah, why not? That would be nice.
3: Nope, haven't tried it

About #6 from the prior post, i'll admit i wasn't being 100% serious with my answer. Yeah, i CAN get pleasure in other ways, but i prefer other people's pain and suffering. :lol:
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You missed the last one:

4. Acknowledge that you understand the difference between beliefs and practices based on evidence, and those based on bullshit superstitions.
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Sadistic I Am wrote: 3. giving up real meat is submitting to veganism and letting them win, and i cannot do that. For fuck's sake, would you ever think of giving Christianity what it wants?
4. Like i said, changing my habits is just giving you want you want.
This is like behaving recklessly infantile, almost a rebel without a cause. It's a false equivalence suggesting that it's in any way like giving xtianity what it wants.
There the reasons for not complying are because of xtianity being what it is a system of indoctrination that calls for supernaturalistic stories of tribesmen of the past trying to explain a universe they knew nothing about and filling in the innumerable gaps in their understanding with supernaturalistic stories. Also because of the flawed kind of morality that depends on authoritarian rules rather than metrics like suffering. In fact it is xtianity that has made excuses for the mistreatment of women, homosexuals, condoned slavery and also for animal cruelty. You would be giving xtianity exactly what they want by being yet another person who adds to the crowd of voices that make excuses for animal cruelty. You would also be behaving very much like the xtian god as well who according to even their own books mythology when in a position of power to avoid suffering routinely causes it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgZqnsytJI

By contrast veganism is nothing like xtianity and is a stance on morality based on suffering. Changing your habits isn't about giving us what we want. We aren't talking here about instituting sharia or xtianity based laws where there are such obvious reasons to oppose it. It's about avoidable suffering of powerless victims the animals. Even if you don't at this point think its possible for you to go all the way, you could at least reduce consumption because everything counts and then its that many animals saved from pain and suffering.

If you're extremely sadistic do you also delight in other suffering like when a child is molested or women raped, killed, Isis throws homosexuals from buildings? If yes then its purely a neurobiological phenomenon completely irrational at that and some circuits are dysfunctional, sort of like other mental conditions like schizophrenia or autism, you could get medical help.
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garrethdsouza wrote: If you're extremely sadistic do you also delight in other suffering like when a child is molested or women raped, killed, Isis throws homosexuals from buildings? If yes then its purely a neurobiological phenomenon completely irrational at that and some circuits are dysfunctional, sort of like other mental conditions like schizophrenia or autism, you could get medical help.
He's psychopathic, in that he doesn't experience empathy for others, which makes him by default at best indifferent to those things if they don't negatively affect him.

But his sadism, if I would guess, triggers pleasure when HE is the cause of suffering. So, he would enjoy throwing somebody from a building, but only most enjoy it if he did or caused it somehow. He wouldn't get as much from just watching it (although that might give him some), or knowing some distant group is doing it.

I could be wrong, though, and the idea of the suffering happening may be just as appealing to him as causing it.
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brimstoneSalad wrote:You missed the last one:

4. Acknowledge that you understand the difference between beliefs and practices based on evidence, and those based on bullshit superstitions.
I do.
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brimstoneSalad wrote:
garrethdsouza wrote: If you're extremely sadistic do you also delight in other suffering like when a child is molested or women raped, killed, Isis throws homosexuals from buildings? If yes then its purely a neurobiological phenomenon completely irrational at that and some circuits are dysfunctional, sort of like other mental conditions like schizophrenia or autism, you could get medical help.
He's psychopathic, in that he doesn't experience empathy for others, which makes him by default at best indifferent to those things if they don't negatively affect him.

But his sadism, if I would guess, triggers pleasure when HE is the cause of suffering. So, he would enjoy throwing somebody from a building, but only most enjoy it if he did or caused it somehow. He wouldn't get as much from just watching it (although that might give him some), or knowing some distant group is doing it.

I could be wrong, though, and the idea of the suffering happening may be just as appealing to him as causing it.
Well now, I never really SAID I was psychopathic. Empathy for other humans? Maybe, if they're significant in my life and not just a stranger. But for non-human animals? Hell no. I'm no expert, I don't know WHAT the fuck is wrong with me, (if anything) all i know is that i've felt this way my entire life and it seems pretty normal to me. I'm no murderer, I don't torture babies in my basement, and I'd like to think i don't make my sadism TOO obvious in the real world.

And about my sadism, I don't have to be the cause of the suffering. Child molestation and women being raped doesn't do much for me. I prefer people actually getting injured and hacked apart, things of that nature. That may seem shocking, but understand that it's been normal to me for my whole life.
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Sadistic I Am wrote: Well now, I never really SAID I was psychopathic. Empathy for other humans? Maybe, if they're significant in my life and not just a stranger.
That sounds like psychopathy. What you experience for close relations isn't, I suspect, so much empathy as value due to your relationship with them and what they offer you.
You might feel similarly about a friend dying as about your hard drive dying and losing all of your data. More of a "shit, that really sucks for me because I enjoyed that thing, I feel a sense of loss or frustrated about this now".

Empathy means giving a shit even when it doesn't affect you. Strangers and non-human animals? Yes. But also friends who move away and that you'll never hear from or see again; if you are empathetic you prefer that they be happy and have good things happen to them rather than die, even to the extent you will sacrifice to achieve that.
For a psychopath, it wouldn't make sense to prefer that those people are happy far away or dead, if in either case one will never see or hear from them again and it doesn't make a difference to one's personal situation.

This is why, for normal people, the idea of heaven is very appealing. Not just to see them again, but because they want their loved ones to be happy somewhere far away, rather than dead (which is seen as an unfortunate state to be in).
Sadistic I Am wrote:I'm no murderer, I don't torture babies in my basement, and I'd like to think i don't make my sadism TOO obvious in the real world.
Why? Because it's practical. It's psychopaths with very low IQs who go around murdering and torturing babies, and often end up in jail. Psychopaths with more average or high IQ hide in plain sight, and try to fit in. You probably hide the facts of your nature because it allows you to function in society, and maintain useful relationships.
Sadistic I Am wrote:I prefer people actually getting injured and hacked apart, things of that nature. That may seem shocking, but understand that it's been normal to me for my whole life.
You would probably enjoy some parts of Africa, where this is a daily occurrence.
I don't understand why you don't seek to relocate to a place that would better gratify your deviant impulses.
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brimstoneSalad wrote:You would probably enjoy some parts of Africa, where this is a daily occurrence.
I don't understand why you don't seek to relocate to a place that would better gratify your deviant impulses.
Because I don't like my OWN suffering, i'd rather watch others suffer from a safe distance.
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