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Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
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in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex, No gambling, No drugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( www.asitis.com {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, sex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
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vaat wrote: if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?
What is your proof that Santa Claus doesn't exist?

Just because we cannot disprove a past life doesn't mean there is any reason to believe in one, just like our inability to disprove Santa Claus isn't legitimate reason to believe in him.
vaat wrote:that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
Where did you get that from? Why do you believe that?
vaat wrote:same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
This reminds me of that phrase, ""God said it. I believe it. That settles it."

But that is closed-minded, and you basically just become a clone when you subscribe to it. It's closed-minded because you are not critically examining anything; you are just blindly accepting things because they come from your "real authority", and if your "real authority" doesn't accept an idea, you automatically won't be able to accept it, or examine it. And you're a clone to your "real authority", because you just mimic all of their beliefs, solely because your authority believes them. It's also therefore a fallacy from genetics. Everybody is fallible, so you can't reasonably have an absolute authority.
vaat wrote:cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
Well, I don't have a disease, and I'm doing what I can to prevent getting one by eating healthy, so there's that. There is no reason to believe in birth after birth, so I don't need to worry about that. Old age isn't really a problem in and of itself. Death is something I can help delay by how I spend my life, but there is nothing I or anyone can do to stop it completely, so I shouldn't waste my time worrying about it.
vaat wrote:if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex, No gambling, No drugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )
Illicit, like illegal? God obeys human laws?
What's wrong with tea and coffee? Why do you think all drugs are bad?
What's wrong with onions and garlic?
vaat wrote:if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
People of all different religions say they get special feelings from their religion. It's confirmation bias.
vaat wrote:Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
You blindly accept things? Why? That is closed-minded (like I explained above).

Who is included in "everyone else"? And how are they idiots?
vaat wrote:if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( http://www.asitis.com {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, sex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
It looks like a site dedicated to the teachings of Srila Praphupada, but I don't see why I should blindly accept his teachings.
"I am not a Marxist." -Karl Marx
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Hi vaat, welcome to the forum!
I suggest you post an introduction, in the introductions section:

https://philosophicalvegan.com/viewforum.php?f=4
vaat wrote:If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.
I will tell you the same thing I tell Christians. Any religion which allows practitioners to just substitute in ritual and vicarious redemption instead of acting properly is an evil religion. It is counterfeit, void of any legitimate value, a fraud of vanity, and the fact that it stands in for what might otherwise be a credible system of values makes it wicked.

A Christian can run around murdering and raping all day, and then confess and get forgiveness from Jesus and everything is OK -- and he can repeat that every day.

If a follower of Krishna can run around eating meat (which is supposed to be forbidden), and then just chant the Mantra and everything is OK "Don't worry", then your religion is also an evil one at its core, because it promotes vicarious redemption as acceptable which dismisses and displaces legitimate conviction and moral value as unnecessary.

I will never believe in or regard worthy of discussion an evil religion which promotes such things as the ritual of vicarious redemption instead of true good behavior.
Mahatma Gandhi wrote:The Roots of Violence: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Knowledge without character, Commerce without morality, Science without humanity, Worship without sacrifice, Politics without principles.
(Young India, 22 October 1925)
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/76987-t ... conscience
(emphasis mine)

Show me a religious belief that has true and uncompromising standards of behavior for its adherents, and then we can discuss its credibility.

Somebody else may come along to address the other points, but I won't since I consider them irrelevant, since I have already shown how the belief is evil.

If maybe you miscommunicated, or misunderstood your master, definitely let me know.
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brimstoneSalad wrote:Hi vaat, welcome to the forum!
I suggest ******skip*******If a follower of Krishna can run around eating meat (which is supposed to be forbidden), and then just chant the Mantra and everything is OK "Don't worry", then your religion is also an evil one at its core, because it promotes vicarious redemption as acceptable which dismisses and displaces legitimate conviction and moral value as unnecessary.
this instruction is for neophyte ( or for beginners ) for example : suppose you gone in gym first time ( in your entire life ) and `1st day you want to lift 100 k.g so any expert ( or intelligent man ) can understand that you are nonsense. and it is not possible for you to pick up 100 k.g on your first day.

similarly there are many people who cant follow rules and regulation but even if you cant follow rules but chanting of hare krishna maha mantra will help you and one day it will be possible for you to follow rules and regulation completely.
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vaat wrote: this instruction is for neophyte ( or for beginners )
That was not at all clear from what you said.

You should have instead said something like:

"If you're not able to follow these four essential things right away (no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating) then be sure to focus on chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ), and it will help you progress by building up your spiritual muscle so you will be better able to follow these four in the future and commit fully. You can not be a true follower unless you follow these four points, but the Mantra can help you get there."
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brimstoneSalad wrote:
vaat wrote: this instruction is for neophyte ( or for beginners )
That **baloney**there."
so you mean that child should go directly in collage ? without learning a,b,c,d ? ( this is nonsense point ) nonsense rascal.

or you mean that you can lift 100 k.g on the very first day ? ( and i have to believe such an street dog like like ? just see the folly )
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What point of this do you disagree with?

"If you're not able to follow these four essential things right away (no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating) then be sure to focus on chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ), and it will help you progress by building up your spiritual muscle so you will be better able to follow these four in the future and commit fully. You can not be a true follower unless you follow these four points, but the Mantra can help you get there."

vaat wrote: so you mean that child should go directly in collage ? without learning a,b,c,d ? ( this is nonsense point ) nonsense rascal.

or you mean that you can lift 100 k.g on the very first day ? ( and i have to believe such an street dog like like ? just see the folly )
English is clearly not your first language. That's fine, but that also means you need to work a little harder to understand what I am saying, and to communicate clearly.
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brimstoneSalad wrote: English is clearly not your first language. That's fine, but that also means you need to work a little harder to understand what I am saying, and to communicate clearly.
although my english is not very grammatically, rhetorically correct and Rascals are concerned with grammar. Actual workers are concerned with thoughts.
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and i have no problem but you have problem that why child should not go directly in colllage ( that is your nonsense point ) what is use of learning a,b,c,d ? we must send him directly in collage that is your ( nonsense ) therefore you are nonsense, as same as your nonsense point.
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The problem is not just grammar, but I actually struggle to understand what you are saying, and you are making it pretty clear that you did not understand what I said.

Can you invite a friend here with better English to help translate?

I will ask one final time.
What is your disagreement with this kind of statement:

"If you're not able to follow these four essential things right away (no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating) then be sure to focus on chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ), and it will help you progress by building up your spiritual muscle so you will be better able to follow these four in the future and commit fully. You can not be a true follower unless you follow these four points, but the Mantra can help you get there."

Does it reflect what you are trying to say? If not, why not? Which parts are problematic for you?

This forum operates in English, if you can not understand what we say, and you don't have any friends who can help you, there's not much point in being here.
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brimstoneSalad wrote: This forum operates in English, if you can not understand what we say, and you don't have any friends who can help you, there's not much point in being here.
as i said before that although my english is not very grammatically, rhetorically correct and Rascals are concerned with grammar. Actual workers are concerned with thoughts.

brimstoneSalad wrote: What is your disagreement with this kind of statement:

"If you're not able to follow these four essential things right away (no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating) then be sure to focus on chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ), and it will help you progress by building up your spiritual muscle so you will be better able to follow these four in the future and commit fully. You can not be a true follower unless you follow these four points, but the Mantra can help you get there."

Does it reflect what you are trying to say? If not, why not? Which parts are problematic for you?
as i said before many times that this instruction is meant for neophyte ( or for beginners ) and there are other different stages also like intermediate, advance, expert.

but now we are talking about neophyte ( or for beginners ) just like for example : we cant send child directly in collage `1st of all he must learn a,b,c,d ( which is meant for beginners ) and then middile school and then high school and then collage. it is not that we have to jump directly on collage study ( cuz we know it that what child will study in collage ? )
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do you follow this point or not ? what is your answer ( yes or no ??) nonsense rascal.
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