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TheAgnosticAtheist wrote:
You shouldn't assume what you think you know I have done or not done. I am aware of what you write in it entirety. However, regardless of your reasoning your argument still falls flat on itself.
My assumption was a charitable one. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, in assuming you just didn't read it.
If you read it, that doesn't bode well for you. Either you're dishonest, or you're an idiot. Take your pick.
undergroundhealthreporter dot com/medical-miracles-in-hospitals/#axzz3S6HTsl90 I'm sure you have a perfectly logical explanation of this. So prove it and i'll quit believing in God. The higher power our human brains can't comprehend because of our inferiority. You will make good debt slaves when the time comes......
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InGodWeTrust wrote:undergroundhealthreporter dot com/medical-miracles-in-hospitals/#axzz3S6HTsl90 I'm sure you have a perfectly logical explanation of this. So prove it and i'll quit believing in God. The higher power our human brains can't comprehend because of our inferiority. You will make good debt slaves when the time comes......
undergroundhealthreporter dot com/medical-miracles-in-hospitals/#axzz3S6HTsl90
I hope you are joking with those links. You seriously don't take them seriously....
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Why should I not believe a Harvard educated top notch Dr over you? You won't research medical miracles because you can't disprove them. You believe everyone is a liar who witnesses a miracle that your science can't prove. There are millions of people who witness miracles so I guess they are all liars right?
InGodWeTrust wrote:Why should I not believe a Harvard educated top notch Dr over you? You won't research medical miracles because you can't disprove them. You believe everyone is a liar who witnesses a miracle that your science can't prove. There are millions of people who witness miracles so I guess they are all liars right?
I guess I was wrong... you are being serious. Well in that case, how have you determined the truth of the article? What have you done besides read an online article to verify if it is in fact true and well reported? Have you verified anything, or have you rather come with an agenda (to prove them atheists that miracles do happen) and pass off this as some kind of evidence? If these are legit evidence of miracles, why isn't the whole science community going crazy over this? I can tell you.... because its bullshit. There are thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of people claiming all sorts of nonsense all across the globe. Some believe their own crap, while others realize its a good way to make money or get attention.
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you are calling your own links bullshit? I don't understand.
Why do you think I would delete your posts and ban you. Why would you think I would do that? What have you done worthy of deleting and banning?
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brimstoneSalad wrote:'God' is a word which points to a concept.
Which concept that word points to is not inherently clear, because words have no inherent meaning.
The functional meaning of words is based on how people use them (descriptivism)
The way the overwhelming majority of English speakers use the word 'god' refers to a being that is logically impossible due it its nature.
God, in the sense that it is meant when the question is asked using standard English definitions, does not exist.
Although as language changes, and definitions with it, perhaps in the future god will exist- described in such a radically different way as to be logically coherent or even necessary.
Any theist who aspires to be taken seriously at all should first:
1. Recognize that the standard definition of god is illogical, and that such a god does not exist.
2. If he or she will present anything other than the standard definition for consideration, make it abundantly clear how it deviates from the standard definition- and define it clearly and consistently for the purposes of discussion.
3. Understand that we may dismiss that definition as irrelevant or dishonest. If you define 'god' so bizarrely as "the universe" or only as "love", you are probably either being disingenuous by hiding additional qualities you have assumed but refuse to convey, or by meaninglessly and sloppily applying the word 'god' to things we already have words for in direct opposition to prevailing word usage just to confuse people and obfuscate your position.
4. Make sure your definition, aside from being honest, is both coherent and descriptively useful-- which means being at least complete enough to delineate between things that are, and are not god. If something that is, in your view, clearly not god could also fit your definition as stated, then your definition is not adequate and it needs to be elaborated upon. Things are just as much defined by what they are not as by what they are.
If you can do that, I'd love to hear your definition.
If your definition is logically consistent as far as we can tell, I'd be glad to admit that I can't prove your particular god concept doesn't exist.
If you can campaign to the English speakers of the world, and get enough people to accept your definition that it becomes realistically descriptive of English usage- then you will have defeated my argument.
TL;DR
"The Fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." - Psalm 14:1, KJV
