Philosophical Vegan Forum

Jebus wrote: Do you mean that starvation would/should control the population?

Feeding wild animals increases their populations to account for the new food source, and makes them dependent on the new food source. You'd need to wean them off human food to prevent starvation. So, stop feeding them, but maybe over a couple seasons.

Calorie restriction absolutely reduces fertility. The body enters a calorie restricted state where non-vital systems are shut down. Males and females metabolize body fat and muscle, and reduce activity. For females, they stop ovulating, for both sex drive reduces drastically.

Reducing animals' food sources isn't the same as starving them to death, since the reductions is generally distributed throughout the population, particularly for foraging animals like deer whose food sources are non-centralized and thus can not be monopolized by the strongest and best fed (creating feedback, and locking out others).

Human feeding habits create serious problems with this functional mechanism in overpopulated countries due to their motility, monopolizability, and inflexibility.

brimstoneSalad wrote:There are two common grains you have to watch out for:

1. White/brown rice. Rice, both white and brown, are low in protein. Don't base your diet on those.
2. White/yellow corn. Like white/brown rice, white and yellow corn is also low in protein. It shouldn't form a major part of your diet.

You can eat a little of those, but try not to eat much of them.

Pretty much any other whole grain will be high in protein.
Black rice. Wild rice. Blue corn. Red corn. Wheat. Oats. Buckwheat. Rye. Barley. Sorghum. Teff.

Are you sure about black rice having a better protein content than brown rice? That seems a reasonable assumption if you go by the rule of thumb that darker grains have better protein content than lighter grains, but I found some (perhaps misleading) nutrition labels that claimed otherwise.

I was examining nutrition labels on bags of rice at Trader Joe's earlier today, and found the following ratios of protein-mass to serving-size-mass:

white jasmine rice:
3g/53g (5.7% protein)
black rice:
3g/45g (6.7% protein)
brown jasmine rice:
4g/49g (8.2% protein)
brown basmati rice:
4g/48g (8.3% protein)
wild rice:
6g/40g (15% protein)

Why do these particular types of brown rice have higher protein contents than the black rice? Are jasmine and basmati brown rices relatively higher than other types of brown rice, or do some types of black rice have relatively low protein? What am I missing here?

ArmouredAbolitionist wrote: white jasmine rice:
3g/53g (5.7% protein)
black rice:
3g/45g (6.7% protein)
brown jasmine rice:
4g/49g (8.2% protein)
brown basmati rice:
4g/48g (8.3% protein)
wild rice:
6g/40g (15% protein)

Where did you get your numbers on black rice?

There are multiple strains of black rice, and not all are necessarily equal, but that is a very low value.

http://www.netrition.com/lotus_foods_fo ... _rice.html

That says 10% protein.

I was reading the nutrition label on the back of a rice bag at TJ's. It simply had "black rice" as its name, although I did not inspect it much other than its protein content. I'll look at it again next time I'm there.

ArmouredAbolitionist wrote:I was reading the nutrition label on the back of a rice bag at TJ's. It simply had "black rice" as its name, although I did not inspect it much other than its protein content. I'll look at it again next time I'm there.

Huh. Yeah, please take a picture if you can. It is admittedly hard to find nutrition info on black rice (unlike wild rice), since it's not in many databases.

The package could also, possibly, just be wrong. It might be worth contacting Trader Joe's about that.