RedAppleGP wrote:So I'm an atheist, and you would most likely expect for me to watch atheist youtubers. Well guess what I don't.
brimstoneSalad wrote:I wouldn't expect that.
Well I was being sarcastic
And I said most likely, so the joke's on you.yeah, like I said in my addendum, they think they are sooo inteligent when it comes to stuff like atheism, but when you think about it, it's pretty easy to understand. the only requirement is to not believe in God and to have an appetite to criticize religion, and then it goes on from there. i can tell i was pretty militant new atheist myself, and I thought I was smart for now believing in God. Not to mention it's kinda low to criticize religion with that mindset.brimstoneSalad wrote:Like you said, the vast majority are just preaching to the choir, and most of them are idiots, providing piss poor arguments.
Theism is very, very low hanging fruit, and yet they still fumble trying to reach for it.
I've commented on TJ extensively.
That does sound fun, but that sounds like something I would do, so don't do that.brimstoneSalad wrote:I almost want to make a poe theist account and just troll them with arguments that will melt their brains, since I'm pretty sure they'd be unable to respond coherently to a real challenge.
But that would be counterproductive.
RedAppleGP wrote:Why? Because I think I've seen everything there is religious-wise. It also applies to veganism.
Yeah I also meant not very thouroughly. And people like JaclynGlenn, like I said, offer the same arguments that have been said hundreds of times before. And YouTube doesn't promote that stuff because the masses have the attention span of a 3 year old, and can't be bothered to watch such thought provoking material, which doesn't allow them to make much money. For the more popular YouTubers (not all of them, but usually the ones that have 100,000-1,000,000 subs), the only thing that matters is lots of views and lots of likes. Principles? New arguments to bring to the table? Hmmm nah. I would watch more debates, but like I said, I have lost much interest. Maybe every now and again, but I'd rather watch debates from people that aren't arrogant (COUGH Richard Dawkins COUGH). But I still don't take interest because of reasons like the imperialistic new atheism of Christopher Hitchens, who attempted to justify the Iraq War, or Pat Condell and his conservative bigotry. I know these aren't things that should make me not want to watch debates, but these small nitpicks matter to me.brimstoneSalad wrote:Superficially, I would say probably so. People like JaclynGlenn will have nothing to offer on the intellectual side.
There IS actually good and intriguing philosophical content out there, but it's very hard to find because people don't promote it much.
The issue is most people are too dumb to understand it and so don't find it interesting; fewer likes, fewer favorites, fewer subscribers, shares, comments, whatever. Visibility on youtube is a democracy ruled by morons. It's what happens.Dawkins doesn't do many debates, although Harris is still interested in these discussions, so you may find some of his debates with the more intelligent theists interesting. Dennett is pretty quiet too. And of course Hitchens did what he did...
Your best bet is to stick with the science related channels that rarely talk about atheism.
