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Is giving birth to offspring morally detestable?

Yes, absolutely
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Yes, unless it is necessary for the species's survival
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While child birth is detestable, it is not immoral
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No, child birth is necessary for a species to survive and thrive
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No, child birth is a beautiful miracle
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No, potential suffering is not equivalent to actual suffering
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Cirion Spellbinder
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Re: Procreation

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KenBrace wrote: Do you regret that you were born?
I did for a period of time. I no longer regret it, but I am not particularly thankful for it. It's just something that has occurred that I no longer care about.
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Re: Procreation

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garrethdsouza wrote:
miniboes wrote:Depends on who you are. If you are an intelligent, reasonably wealthy person, I think getting a child is completely okay. Sure, that child is going to suffer, but chances are it's going to live a reasonably healthy life given the fact hat he raised by someone wealthy and intelligent.
There are many social injustices that result in inequity in wealth distribution, so saying that it's only/more morally acceptable for the wealthy could be interpreted as classist.
I said reasonably wealthy and intelligent because I assumed you and most other people on this forum are so. I do not think that a poor person in a western country should refrain from having children, but if you're a person in Syria, under the rule of ISIS, I'd say getting a child is probably not the best decision.
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Re: Procreation

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Cirion Spellbinder wrote: Isn't this natural fallacy? Couldn't one also state that war and paranoia are evolutionary functions and be correct? Are these practices therefore not detestable?
Perhaps. Is pair bonding, that is, being in love, detestable? There is no objective morality as far as we know. Only subjective human morality. In some cases having babies (for a baby bonus perhaps) is detestable, but in other cases it's not. Were it not for childbirth, we would not be here having this discussion.
Neither would we have Charles Darwin, Richard Dawkins, Peter Singer. Or Hitler.
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