Your political views!

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I'll follow the same green/red/black color scheme and add blue to indicate I don't know much about the matter!
Abortion
Alcohol
CIA
Death Penalty
Democracy
EU
Eugenics
Euthanasia
FBI
Feminism
Fluoride
GMOs
Gun Control
Heliocentrism- wait... I think you misspelled COMMUNISM11111!!!1
Incest- as long as there aren't babies
LGBT Rights
Mainstream Media
Marijuana- oral consumption only
Militarism- maybe if I'm in charge ;)
NASA
NATO
NSA
Polygamy- if balanced, yes
Pornography
Prostitution
Racial Equality
Refugees
Religion
Round Earth
Science
Socialism
Spanking
TSA
UFOlogy
UN
Unmarried Sex
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Re: Your political views!

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Abortion
Alcohol
CIA
Death Penalty
Democracy - I'm not sure
EU - complicated
Eugenics
Euthanasia - I don't know
FBI
Feminism
Fluoride
GMOs
Gun Control
Heliocentrism
Incest - Don't have a baby
LGBT Rights They deserve the same right as the heterosexual but no need to do parade or propaganda
Mainstream Media
Marijuana
Militarism - Depend on the situation
NASA
NATO
NSA
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Racial Equality
Refugees
Religion (It depend on the way people see their religion and their actions)
Round Earth
Science
Socialism
Spanking
TSA
UFOlogy
UN - I don't know
Unmarried Sex
Vaccinations
Veganism
Zionism
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Re: Your political views!

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EquALLity wrote: You're against democracy and marijuana? Why?
I am against democracy, especially democracies as we have them now, as the end form of government.
Democracy sucks at dealing with long-term, complicated, abstract problems. The best example here is climate change. To prevent it, massive changes should already have been made. However, because people don't care much about what happens in what is perceived to be the distant future, democracy doesn't do much. Granted, countries like China are not making those changes either, but there is clearly a problem here.
There's also the problem of corruption, which might not be inherent to democracy, but is messing it up either way. I think democracy is way better than current alternatives, but we should be actively searching for ways to either improve on democracy or another government form entirely. The main thing we should be looking at here, in my opinion, is how we can better involve science in government. I have thought of a sort of pseudo-democracy where scientist votes have higher weight (e.g. scientist votes count twice as much). Not sure if that would be better, but those are the sort of things I think we need to explore.

As to marijuana, I do not think it should be illegal, but just like alcohol, meat, dairy and eggs, I want to see the demand for it drop heavily. I am not convinced it is safe, in any case when smoked, and heavily dislike anything that messes with your brain functions.
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Fluttershy wrote:Incest - Don't have a baby
Really? Surely you can think of more things wrong with incest than just reproduction.
Lets start with the fact that the vast majority of romantic/sexual relationships fail. This could likely damage ones relationship within there family. Not to mention that there often exists an unequal power dynamic within a family, which clouds the idea of connect.
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miniboes wrote:I am against democracy
I largely agree, but didn't want to defend a view that is often met with nothing but ridicule.
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bobo0100 wrote:
Fluttershy wrote:Incest - Don't have a baby
Really? Surely you can think of more things wrong with incest than just reproduction.
Lets start with the fact that the vast majority of romantic/sexual relationships fail. This could likely damage ones relationship within there family. Not to mention that there often exists an unequal power dynamic within a family, which clouds the idea of connect.
Is that not the case with any relationship, though? If I were to enter a relationship with a female friend, and that relationship were to fail, that is quite likely to damage our group of friends. Within that group of friends, I might have quite a lot of power since I am the one who most often organizes our activities. Would it therefore be wrong for me to enter that relationship? Or is there some relevant difference between friends and family I am missing?

An interesting case related to this is presented in the movie "Mr. Nobody", which I would definitely recommend watching. It's on netflix. It's the most mind-boggling movie I've ever watched, and got me thinking more than any other movie that was not a documentary.
bobo0100 wrote:I largely agree, but didn't want to defend a view that is often met with nothing but ridicule.
It's probably the most "alternative" view I hold. Whenever I explain it to people, however, they tend to agree. I do not, after all, say that democracy is worse than a dictatorship or oligarchy. I only point out it is not perfect, and given its importance, we should be looking for something better. Most people I talk to actually tend to agree on that.

The statement "I am against democracy" lacks nuance, however, and will indeed be met with ridicule.
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I am very sorry everybody, but when I wrote this post I forgot to add in "Enviromentalism" I have added it in now, so please can you add you're opinions about it in your posts, thank you!
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Insert name here wrote:Abortion
Alcohol
CIA
Death penalty
Democracy
EU
Eugenics
Euthanasia
FBI
Feminism
Fluoride
GMOs
Gun control
Heliocentrism (Do you mean that as in the sun is the center of the universe or the solar system?)
Incest
LGBT rights
Mainstream media
Marijuana
Militarism
NASA
NATO
NSA
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostituition
Racial equality
Refugees
Religion
Round earth
Science
Socialism
Spanking
TSA
UFOlogy
UN
Unmarried sex
Vaccinations
Veganism
Zionism
Solar System
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I see a lot of you putting Heliocentrism in gray, please be aware that I mean in the solar system!!!1
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Dizzy wrote:I see a lot of you putting Heliocentrism in gray, please be aware that I mean in the solar system!!!1
I do agree with heliocentrism and environmentalism.
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