Only vegans should be allowed to procreate?

[Lisaplantbasedguru]

A lot of kids raised as ethical vegans would probably find it strange that people eat meat when there is so much other stuff out there they can eat that doesn't hurt animals. Carnist children are taught that eating certain animals is okay and even necessary whereas vegan children are taught that all animals are equal and there is no difference in eating a pig or a dog. People eat meat because there is a belief system that conditions them to eat animals, when that belief system lacks so does the belief that it is acceptable to eat animals. Therefore vegan kids are likely to continue to be vegan. They don't know what they are missing out on when they are young but when they grow up to be a teen they may ask for themselves: why can't I just eat what the others are eating? And then while under peer pressure I can imagine a teen cheating on a vegan diet or deciding to adopt an omnivorous diet. While vegan kids are likely to continue to be vegan throughout their entire life, there is no guarantee. I think every vegan should have the right to have children, but when your only motivation is 'I'll get a child so that we will have another amazing vegan in the world' you probably shouldn't since there is no guarantee. Besides there are so many people on the planet already and there are so many orphans that long to have a family. I think it is okay to have a few children that are biologically yours but when one wants another kid they should look if it is possible to adopt a child instead of bearing another one.

[brimstoneSalad]

Besides there are so many people on the planet already and there are so many orphans that long to have a family. I think it is okay to have a few children that are biologically yours but when one wants another kid they should look if it is possible to adopt a child instead of bearing another one.

Our planet could probably host a population ten times as large made up of vegans, though, assuming we can also transition to a clean energy source.
The trouble with adopting is that the vast majority (of course not all, there are rare exceptions) of adopted children have lower IQs, so will have more trouble in school, professionally, etc. be more likely to commit criminal acts (less foresight), and generally have a tougher life and be less able to engage in society in the way a biological child could. Much of that difference comes down to prenatal nutrition and drug use, some also comes from genetics, but either way it's permanent.

[Red]

The trouble with adopting is that the vast majority (of course not all, there are rare exceptions) of adopted children have lower IQs, so will have more trouble in school, professionally, etc. be more likely to commit criminal acts (less foresight), and generally have a tougher life and be less able to engage in society in the way a biological child could.

How is an adopted child less intelligent than a legitimate child? Is the child being around their parents keep them mentally in check? Or they have low IQs, that's why they're up for adoption.

[brimstoneSalad]

How is an adopted child less intelligent than a legitimate child? Is the child being around their parents keep them mentally in check? Or they have low IQs, that's why they're up for adoption.

Read the next sentence in my post:

Much of that difference comes down to prenatal nutrition and drug use, some also comes from genetics, but either way it's permanent.

By the time you're born, your adult IQ is more or less set in stone, plus or minus only a few points based on upbringing.

The adopted child is less intelligent because the parents who gave their children up for adoption were less intelligent, or otherwise in a poor environment which caused the baby's brain to not develop well.

A significant number of adopted babies came from a mother who was using drugs during pregnancy, smoking, alcohol, and harder drugs. Virtually no adopted children came from mothers who were taking prenatal vitamins or eating properly during pregnancy.

They aren't up for adoption because their IQs are low, usually their IQs are low AND they're up for adoption because their parents were of low IQ or poor socioeconomic status.
There are a few exceptions to this, but smart kids usually do better at using birth control, and intelligent planned parents use prenatal care and don't do drugs thus leading to smarter children for multiple reasons.

[Lisaplantbasedguru]

Our planet could probably host a population ten times as large made up of vegans, though, assuming we can also transition to a clean energy source.

I know it would not have to be a big problem if the world went vegan, would use their resources in a sustainable way, and would learn to live in peace, but atm that is unfortunately not yet happening so sadly overpopulation is a problem atm. I really hope humanity will wake up and do whatever they can do to change for the good, but I fear they will only do so when forced.

[brimstoneSalad]

I really hope humanity will wake up and do whatever they can do to change for the good, but I fear they will only do so when forced.

Wouldn't that suggest that we should overpopulate as fast as possible so humanity will be forced to change? If we do it slowly, the torture of animals may be viewed as sustainable for centuries.

[Lisaplantbasedguru]

I really hope humanity will wake up and do whatever they can do to change for the good, but I fear they will only do so when forced.

Wouldn't that suggest that we should overpopulate as fast as possible so humanity will be forced to change? If we do it slowly, the torture of animals may be viewed as sustainable for centuries.

Hmmm here you've got a point.