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Who do you think will be our next POTUS, and how strongly do you believe so?

Hillary Clinton (strongly)
2
25%
Hillary Clinton (moderately)
1
13%
Hillary Clinton (slightly)
2
25%
Donald Trump (strongly... or as he says, 'bigly')
1
13%
Donald Trump (moderately)
0
No votes
Donald Trump (slightly)
0
No votes
Gary Johnson (strongly)
0
No votes
Gary Johnson (moderately)
0
No votes
Gary Johnson (slightly)
0
No votes
It's too early for me to make that kind of prediction
2
25%
 
Total votes: 8

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PsYcHo wrote:Gotta say, I didn't see this coming. I'm not thrilled, but I'm not terrified either. I think there is a lot of over-reaction and "fear". I get the uncertainty, but there are people genuinely saying they fear they will be attacked in the streets...He's president elect, not a dictator with a magic wand.
True. People think that now that Trump is elected, everything is going to be a dystopia. America seems to be fine so far.
If we lived with an absolutist government, then yeah, we probably would be screwed.

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RedAppleGP wrote:
PsYcHo wrote:Gotta say, I didn't see this coming. I'm not thrilled, but I'm not terrified either. I think there is a lot of over-reaction and "fear". I get the uncertainty, but there are people genuinely saying they fear they will be attacked in the streets...He's president elect, not a dictator with a magic wand.
America seems to be fine so far.
Well, Obama is still running the country right now ;)
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miniboes wrote:Well, Obama is still running the country right now ;)
I meant throughout history. We've had 44 other presidents (including Obama), and I'm pretty sure at least one other time, people thought WWIII is a potential threat. Probably Nixon.
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RedAppleGP wrote:
miniboes wrote:Well, Obama is still running the country right now ;)
I meant throughout history. We've had 44 other presidents (including Obama), and I'm pretty sure at least one other time, people thought WWIII is a potential threat. Probably Nixon.
Reagan was pretty similar to Trump.
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miniboes wrote:Reagan was pretty similar to Trump.
And how did that turn out?
I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure everything will be fine. I'm sure as hell that my life won't change.
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RedAppleGP wrote:
miniboes wrote:Reagan was pretty similar to Trump.
And how did that turn out?
I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure everything will be fine. I'm sure as hell that my life won't change.
You don't have to start WW3 to be a terrible president. Reagan was pretty terrible.
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miniboes wrote:You don't have to start WW3 to be a terrible president. Reagan was pretty terrible.
And so I've heard. But I don't think Trump will be the catalyst in another World War.
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RedAppleGP wrote:If I wore glasses, I'd take them off, rub my nose, and sigh.
Congratulations?
RedAppleGP wrote:I don't recall saying that I need an expert to determine of Hillary is corrupt: That's more opinion based, not fact based. While political things can involve science, it can also involve other things, such as economics.
Well ok, then you concede you can't have an informed opinion about whether or not she is corrupt. So implying she isn't when you haven't looked into it is not logical.
RedAppleGP wrote:And I especially love that last bit, and how you say it with no sense of irony
Zero clue what this means.
RedAppleGP wrote:Most experts agree that we should be using nuclear power,
Do you have proof?
RedAppleGP wrote:and is the most rational option we have at the moment.
Have you actually studied it, or do you just believe that?
RedAppleGP wrote:I only know the bare minimum about nuclear power.
So you haven't really studied it.
RedAppleGP wrote:The experts are still debating, which tends to be a good sign (I've seen some people lash out against the science community for not agreeing unanimously, which makes no sense because 1), they're not experts and 2) that's how science works.
If the experts are debating, that's not scientific consensus.
RedAppleGP wrote:I've studied evolution in school, and I have seen sufficient evidence that points to evolution being true. If someone who has no idea how evolution works and asks me what to think, I'd tell him it's true. It makes sense for them to ask me, because, while I have done minimal research on evolution, I have more authority on this matter compared to the person who asked me.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
RedAppleGP wrote:I know. What's your point?
Nuclear energy is not relevant in this election because both candidates support it, so it's not a bright side of the results.
RedAppleGP wrote:I don't really know what Obamacare is, and I haven't seen any experts' opinions on this, so I have no room to judge. But you have to remember, while they are only 2 issues, GMOs and Nuclear energy are things that should be on our priority list (I've also heard that fusion power is a good alternative).
Obamacare isn't a scientific position, there isn't a relevant consensus. You actually have to look into it.

I'm not sure if GMOs should be on our priority list. In fact, I just saw an interview between Bill Maher and the President in which they basically said GMOs don't have higher yields and that they use just as many if not more pesticides (Bill Maher was talking about a study about it and Obama agreed, and since Obama is pro-science don't find it hard to believe).

Nuclear energy is important, but it's not the only solution we have. Some European countries have done a lot to reduce greenhouse gas emissions without expanding nuclear energy. I think nuclear energy is overall a good thing, but it's not the end all be all.
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RedAppleGP wrote:
miniboes wrote:You don't have to start WW3 to be a terrible president. Reagan was pretty terrible.
And so I've heard. But I don't think Trump will be the catalyst in another World War.
If he's gonna be as buddy-buddy with Putin as it seems he'll be, then he may actually relieve tensions a lot. He's very isolationist so starting a war is indeed an unlikely thing for him to do.
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EquALLity wrote:I'm not sure if GMOs should be on our priority list. In fact, I just saw an interview between Bill Maher and the President in which they basically said GMOs don't have higher yields and that they use just as many if not more pesticides (Bill Maher was talking about a study about it and Obama agreed, and since Obama is pro-science don't find it hard to believe).
Come on, EquALLity, you know perfectly well it is epistemologically bankrupt to base your beliefs on what a comedian and a lawyer/politician claim based on a study they may very well have completely misunderstood.
Nuclear energy is important, but it's not the only solution we have. Some European countries have done a lot to reduce greenhouse gas emissions without expanding nuclear energy. I think nuclear energy is overall a good thing, but it's not the end all be all.
You know who's done the best job? The countries that have been using nuclear energy. France in particular, who's running on nearly 80% nuclear, has been very succesful. Germany, a country that's gone all-in on renewables, is doing much worse. The Netherlands, a country where nuclear power is never even talked about as a viable option, is doing worst of all (along with some tiny city states).

Have you seen the TED talk I've posted here before, or Pandora's Promise? I really think you should. I believe he compares European countries in there as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZXUR4z2P9w
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