Homosexuality is wrong

[Red]

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seriously though I wasn't sure how I was supposed to repsond to that.ᕦ( ͡°╭͜ʖ╮͡° )ᕤ

[jimgees]

Im wondering why cant homosexuality be labeled as wrong and a bad and unhealthy sexual practice but remain accepted. I do not want my kids thinking gay is right and I am being a bad person for condemning same sex. I did not decide to have kids not to have grand kids. If you were born with reproductive issues I understand. But people need to stop saying that reproductive acts is the same sex is correct. That spreading a bad genocidal message.

1. Prove its unhealthy. Get your first jelly baby removed (unpassable shit due to it being covered with sperm) then talk to me
2. Prove its morally wrong without using the bible or Quran or any religious references. Just wrong not morally wrong.
3. If making children is your only Criteria for it being wrong, what about people who are born with the inability to have children, or have a disease or infection or injurty that takes that ability away from them. That is the only criteria I need because we are talking about reproductive acts. Why are you naming other reproductive issues that have nothing t do with homosexuality except that they are reproductive issues..
4. What if a person has no interest in having sex, or making relationships with people, grows old and dies without making children, going on a date or anything, how is that person any different then a homosexual? Dont know and dont care. For some reason when people discuss homosexuality they go off topic. Homosexuality is wrong. People do a lot of wrong things for many reasons. I just don't want my kids thinking that it is correct. When it is incorrect. If i have a homosexual kid I hope they strive for heterosexuality not homosexuality. Thats like saying oh my tis kid is born blind so thats ok lets not help him. What you do is teach them brail and pass them a stick.
5. How is a VAST MINIORITY of the human species whom are being born gay....and yes Sexual orientation is an inborn nature, have anything to do with the majority and genocide?

That one you know the answer to but I will Try and Humor you. If somehow it becomes normal to be gay kids will start practicing it. Genocide is a strong word but committing an act that will destroy human being is genocide.

[jimgees]

Im wondering why cant homosexuality be labeled as wrong and a bad and unhealthy sexual practice but remain accepted. I do not want my kids thinking gay is right and I am being a bad person for condemning same sex. I did not decide to have kids not to have grand kids. If you were born with reproductive issues I understand. But people need to stop saying that reproductive acts is the same sex is correct. That spreading a bad genocidal message.

There are a lot of biological bases for sexual orientation and gender identity
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology ... rientation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurosc ... rientation

Forcing people to a particular orientation or being intolerant of/discouraging certain sexualorientation/gender identites has very drastic effects on such individuals. Homophobia is very unhealthy for others.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/1 ... verride=in
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide ... LGBT_youth

If your issue here is having grandkids, many queer couples etc do so through surrogacy, sperm donors, adoption etc. However whether or not someone wants to have kids is entirely up to them. No one should put additional pressure on someone for kids if they themselves don't want it. If your kids don't want to have kids themselves, they do not owe it to YOU to have kids simply because you are their parent and want grandkids. in the same way they don't owe it to you to choose your choice of career, spouse, etc. how to lead one's life is up to them; they are not objects or machines for the purpose of producing grandkids.

There's nothing inherently immoral about "reproductive acts" between consenting adults, since it harms noone.

Homosexuality is incorrect first. All I am saying is that I donot want my kids thinking it is correct. I dont care what homosexuals do even get marred. I understand that people have biological issues that are incurable. I am not saying make life miserable for homosexuals. But donot let younger people think that it is not a problem or a disorder and that being attracted to the same sex is normal. First admit I m a homosexual i have a problem. Either say i donot want help for my problem or I do need help for my problem. The best one is " it is none of your business what my problem is. There are many biological problems like Down syndrome. How all of a sudden human beings cant have physiological and psychological reproductive issues.

[jimgees]

Why do you think homosexuality is wrong? Why is it bad and unhealthy?

Maybe my language was a tad bit harsh. Homosexuality is a sexual disorder. Sex is used for entertainment but that is not its scientific purpose. Homosexuality is the incorrect way to use your sexual organs. Heterosexual sex is the correct way to use your sexual organs. Therefore homosexual sex is wrong it is not right. Oral and anal sex is unhealthy if done with female or male (i dont feel like explaining this in detail). That pracice will not lead to the sperm reaching the egg. That is unarguable. If this is the Vegan Atheist. I would like to tell you your videos are ahead of its time. Twenty years from now they will be viewed as common knowledge by the majority of the people.

[jimgees]

Granted, homosexual intercourse has a high chance of causing HIV, but that's what condoms are for. It's not like we live in a time where you either get it or not get it by taking a chance. Explain to us why it's wrong, as why exactly is causes genocide.

Homosexual sex is wrong scientifically. That is improper use of reproductive organs.

[Insert name here]

Homosexual sex is wrong scientifically. That is improper use of reproductive organs.

I am going to assume that you think the proper use of reproductive organs is to create more humans. What obligation does an idividual have to reproduce? I would understand if there was an obligation to during a period with a low population, but that is not the reality of the present day. We are definitely not going through a shortage of human beings, I would argue that fewer people should reproduce. Yes, the reproductive organs are meant to produce more humans, but an individual is in no way obligated to use them in the "correct" fashion that you described. On what ground do you call homosexuality a sexual disorder? Why should we only use our genatalia the "correct way."?

[Red]

Reproduction in nature if you ask me is a pretty interesting topic. Like in nature, 90% of the time the male goes to the female to produce offspring. What may or may not be ironic is that some species like elephants make the mother care for the young, and the male leaves them. Or neither parent will stick around to care. In humans, we don't see any need to reproduce so constantly , or not at all. Humans are, as far as I know, are a monopoly on such a thing. So yeah just ignore this, this was just something I wanted to say.

[jimgees]

Homosexual sex is wrong scientifically. That is improper use of reproductive organs.

I am going to assume that you think the proper use of reproductive organs is to create more humans. What obligation does an idividual have to reproduce? I would understand if there was an obligation to during a period with a low population, but that is not the reality of the present day. We are definitely not going through a shortage of human beings, I would argue that fewer people should reproduce. Yes, the reproductive organs are meant to produce more humans, but an individual is in no way obligated to use them in the "correct" fashion that you described. On what ground do you call homosexuality a sexual disorder? Why should we only use our genitalia the "correct way."?

Do what you want to do with your penis or vagina. If you are not creating insulin with your pancreas your pancreas is wrong. If something is preventing your PENIS or VAGINA from making babies 9 times out of ten something is wrong with what you are doing. I find that the most simplist of statements is becoming the hardest explain.

[TheVeganAtheist]

jimgees,
when responding to comments please do not quote the entire comment left by another. Please quote only the parts you are specifically responding to. Otherwise we will have only a couple of comments per page (mostly filled with old comments being quoted).

Onto this discussion. Are you religious? Science is about discovering the world. It does not state what is the right use of sexual organs. Science can tell us how the organs work, how they work together with other organs, but it is about to go around telling which genitals may touch which and by whom.

[Insert name here]

Do what you want to do with your penis or vagina. If you are not creating insulin with your pancreas your pancreas is wrong. If something is preventing your PENIS or VAGINA from making babies 9 times out of ten something is wrong with what you are doing. I find that the most simplist of statements is becoming the hardest explain.

If you can choose what you want to do with your penis/vagina then why do you say that using them in a way that does not result in a newborn is not acceptable? It's like saying " Here's a map that shows different routes to a destination, you can choose, but you can only choose path A." Like it or not, you are not the final authority on human sexual behavior, if you want to argue from nature, Bonobos in the wild are known to engage in many types of sex to relieve stress and settle disputes. Is this incorrect for Bonobos to do? In the end, no one today is obligated to reproduce, and how they use their reproductive organs is up to them.