Philosophical Vegan Forum

EquALLity wrote: Religious identities are much more lenient. By your standard, most Americans who call themselves Christian aren't Christian. In fact, at some level, none of them are, because they're not stoning people for working on Sundays like it says to do in the Bible. But you're not applying that same standard to Christians. This is a no-true-Scotsman fallacy: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman

Actually I feel the same way about Christians. Anyone who doesn't do the crazy things in their magic book is a step above those that do, though. However, you would be hard pressed to find a story about a Christian actually stoning someone to death recently.

EquALLity wrote: Nazis follow the ideology of Nazism, and there's only one interpretation of Nazism.
There are many different interpretations of the Quran, including peaceful ones, that many Muslims (most in the US) identify with.

If Islam had only one interpretation, and it was evil, then that analogy would be reasonable.

I agree that most (99.9%) of US Muslims are peaceful. But I contend just as the Christians, they do not follow their magic book as it is written.

EquALLity wrote: What makes you think he'd do good things for the economy?

I love the idea of free trade, but I also believe we should take care of our own countrymen first. This is something that Bernie and Trump both agree on.

EquALLity wrote:
I'm not saying that anyone who supports a specific politician must be x or y, but you can't deny that most of the people who would vote for Donald Trump over a democrat are bigots. Not because they're democrats, and democrats are always good, but because these democrats running are better than Donald.
You also can't deny that 95% of people who actually like him are bigots.

I do not think it is even close to 95%, but sadly, yes there are a lot of bigots who support him. (Maybe 20% in my "pull a number out of the air" reasoning.) And not just any democrat, specifically Hillary.

EquALLity wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm saying that social-conservatives who are against Muslims are against other minority groups for the same reason.

That makes sense.

EquALLity wrote: Haha. I mostly just use that phrase to spite the radical anti-PC people.

I must admit, once I started seeing all the additional letters at first, I assumed they were a typo....

EquALLity wrote: Everyone knows who Donald Trump is. We all know what he said about immigrants, Muslims, women, etc. etc..
The Quran is massively up for interpretation. Donald Trump's spoken policies are not.

I'd say in reference to Trump there may be a little interpretation on what he says, such as whether it's just "dumb shit" or actively hateful. The Quaran has some passages that can be interpreted differently depending on the reader, but some (especially concerning women) are worse than anything he has said. (And I agree, he has said some really, really dumb shit.)