Homosexuality is wrong

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Re: Homosexuality is wrong

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RedAppleGP wrote:
Gabi Tomas wrote: I see you are a meat-eater, so it would be futile to put this 'question' on a vegan-atheist forum. By their nature vegans/atheists have a more opened perceptiveness to all sort of non traditional based ideas and life styles. No matter they are just straight people. But they simply accept diversity, more easy, and they accept that any individual is free to exist, as wishes, as feels pleased.
First off, you provide no evidence to support these claims, so we can just treat these is baseless assumptions. Sure some vegans and atheist accept all people and are tolerant, but if you ask me, they're still human. And the site is not just for vegans and atheists, this is a site for all people to debate.
Oh, come on, not again, not here too...! To debate homophobic visions, when real people actually die, because of these ignorant who hate everything is not with their understanding. Don't tell me this dude stopped for the first time to ask here about this thing, just because he never thought is wrong, and anti-social. I've been simply fair to him, why give him the premise his behavior is pretty much cool for to start a thread of decent talking. I am supporter of life (vegan, so I do not tickle meat-eaters who are laughing in my face with their majority, and thus power of despising), and not further the less, I am a supporter of freedom. Whoever stands against that is not my buddy, is my enemy. I treat enemies with defensive, I am not a victim, waiting to be chopped off, because I am a such pacifist. Peace is not made by flowers, is made by humans, that not only smell good or bad, they make good or bad things, they harm, and they assume the property of others' freedom and life. I have no nice words for these individuals. I don't see how I have been unfair in my post above, I've been straight and just. With him, and for the LGB community's support. If you don't like that, then sorry, but I don't care either. We all are free to speak, you say, so am I. So stay away from my freedom. If this forum is made by equality. If not, I entered, I've seen, I can be asked to leave it, and I leave. I don't force no one to read my posts. And if they wake up lost consciousnesses, that is not my fault again. If you think you play fair, play fair to all. I'm sure there've been many Samaritans like you who helped and by that encouraged Nazi soldiers on the field when they were playing harmless and in distress, thinking they are just humans, and then they were returning to their job, killing. I don't say they should have been left to die, if they could be helped, but at least when ypu have the proper chance, before the big harm to be made it, you can try at least to make a solid statement to them, so they know they are not on a playground, thinking and doing whatever they want, when they want, because they are part of the vast majority. You are only more of a cowardliness, with all due respect, but no way you are a kind and fair guy judge who play fairness when innocents are harmed on the streets, in bus, at work, in school etc by these unmerciful anti-gay, anti-transsexual, anti-social, due to their simply lack of proper education.
Before hit with your words do try to think first they are indeed what they mean.
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Re: Homosexuality is wrong

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@Gabi Tomas
What is with this sudden animosity? I just pointed out something that I think is wrong in your statements and I feel as though they should be pointed out. What did I do to deserve that huge block of text that has nothing to do with what I said?
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Re: Homosexuality is wrong

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Yeah...I don't understand how what you said is relevant either. Would you mind elaborating?
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If you elaborate please use the "Enter" key, and quote only what is needed to be able to follow the argument you are making.
vegan: to exclude—as far as is practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for any purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment.
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Re: "Homosexuality is wrong" (???)

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My problem is homophobia. It is a crime against humanity. There is no doubt about it. Legally, in first place, then morally. If you sustain a live topic about it, you encourage it. Period.
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Re: "Homosexuality is wrong" (???)

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Gabi Tomas wrote:My problem is homophobia. It is a crime against humanity.
Define crime against humanity.
If you sustain a live topic about it, you encourage it. Period.
How so? Can you substantiate this claim with a study or a few anecdotes? When I discuss factory farming, a horrific moral crime, am I encouraging it? I'm not convinced that criticizing and correcting someone's homophobic views and letting them express themselves in return will make us any more homophobic than we may be (unless he is correct, in which case we should be homophobic).
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Re: Homosexuality is wrong

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Gabi,, I wasn't attacking you, I was just pointing out something that I thought was wrong in your claims. We're all welcome here, and there's no need for you to go and argue arbitrary claims.
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Re: Homosexuality is wrong

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I'm just glad you didn't bring up "the leviticus argument" there may be some reasoning with ya. Homosexual behavior is not a human practice alone many animals exhibit this behavior as well. And one thing I would ask is even if it is somehow wrong what are you supposed to do as a hermaphrodite (yes this can happen in humans rare though)? As they are technically both male and female. Anyway Homosexuality being accepted doesn't mean you your kids or anyone have to be homosexuals. It being unhealthy I do not understand some claims it risk Hiv but no its the same ,actually, with a straight person anyone can get it straight bi gay whatever. Like many things that we feel and think we can't explain why we do in this case. I probably will never understand why someone feels attracted to the same sex anymore then I will understand what it would be like to be living on mars. But that doesn't mean I should label them wrong I hope this has helped you understand.
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This topic died awhile ago, I doubt the one who created it is still active on the forum, seeing as everyone disagreed with them.
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