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Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:12 am
by seitan_forker
Thoroughly exciting result, though the "superdelegates" are what will doom him. What a ridiculous system. Politicians from a given state who have publicly supported a candidate automatically count as delegates, so while the people were 50/50, Hillary ended up with 30 delegates to Bernie's 21. That's a trend which is going to continue as Hillary has received 201 endorsements to Bernie's 2 according to this endorsement tracker: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... t-primary/

Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:05 pm
by EquALLity
I was really hoping he would win, so this kind of berns... ;D

Hahaha, seriously though, he only 'lost' by .4%. That's not exactly a win for Hillary.
She was supposed to be invincible, and he was supposed to be a fringe candidate with no shot, and they just tied. He's also almost certainly going to win in NH.
I still think we're in good shape. :D

I've never heard of super-delegates. That sounds ridiculous.

Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:27 pm
by brimstoneSalad
Hopefully, if nothing else, this election has gotten more true liberals and independents into caucusing, which is where most of the real election happens.

Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:18 pm
by Red
What if Ted Cruz wins?

Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:32 pm
by Jebus
So how does this work? Is it a winner takes it all scenario where Hillary and Ted takes all the points or is it a percentage system where Ted got the most points, Don second and Marco third?

Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:33 am
by PsYcHo
RedAppleGP wrote:What if Ted Cruz wins?
While I don't speak for all independents (Libertarians ) , If it came down to Cruz vs. Anybody in the World, Anybody would have to eat a puppy alive while stabbing an orphan with a knife made from mutilated kitten whiskers before I even gave a thought to Cruz. And still, probably gonna join the "eat puppies while killing orphans" demographic. Less tragic.

Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:32 am
by seitan_forker
Jebus wrote:So how does this work? Is it a winner takes it all scenario where Hillary and Ted takes all the points or is it a percentage system where Ted got the most points, Don second and Marco third?
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graph ... e-tracker/

Hillary 29*, Bernie 21 *(due to superdelegates)

Cruz 8, Trump 7, Rubio 7

Iowa chose Mike Huckabee in '08 and Santorum in '12, so I'm not sure what Cruz is so excited about.

Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:51 pm
by Red
How exactly will Bernie enforce these policies?

Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:29 pm
by EquALLity
^'Enforce'?

You mean implement?
The same way Hillary would, by negotiating.
He would just start with actual progressive positions, and then negotiate a compromise. Hillary would start at a compromise and negotiate even further.

Also, he would use executive orders.

Re: Bernie Sanders- Does He Have A Chance?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:32 pm
by Red
"Implement" is just a euphemism.

Anyway, how would these negotiations go down? And with who?