Philosophical Vegan Forum

For those who don't know or don't care, I was a somewhat active member on this forum. I started threads, and made a lot of topic replies. I was a very militant atheist and vegan, and I lived under those life styles as if my life depended on it, so much so that I kinda started thinking that was a bit unhealthy. Sure I talked with friends, and made some stable bonds with people in real life, however, I always put religion and diet first. What I'm trying to say is that I always wanted to know what their religious views were, and if they had a meat free diet and such. But as time went by, I started to realize that I am taking this atheism and veganism stuff WAY too far. It all started in late February to early March, where I started to figure out that there are other things I can focus my attention to. I mean, to be honest, the only reason why I debated atheism and veganism and such was because I understood those topics VERY well, and it was pretty easy, since I knew pretty much every counter argument. I was actually getting bored of New Atheism and debating Carnism. I wanted to see if there was anything that could strain my debating abilities, and I did, and I discussed government systems and such. But eventually, looking back, I saw that I made myself look like a total asshole (even though in some stances I am proud to hold that title, no sarcasm). I challenged people's viewpoints on the world, and I thought they were irrational, and I looked no further than that. Now, I can better understand that there are Christians that are more rational than me! (yea, I mostly thought that religious people were the most irrational people on the planet, like that fuckface Cult of Dusty) I realized that no matter how rational I regard myself, there are people who are more rational than me, even if I thought their viewpoints were irrational! Well look, I am still an atheist and a vegan. However, I do not take them as my full lifestyles. Yes, I still have compassion for other creatures, and yes, I am still curious to the answers the universe has to offer. Now I have something to say about the latter. Sure, I wished I knew more about this universe that we live in. But, I am more concerned with living my life to the fullest, and (hopefully) making others lives better. Sure, the answer would be awesome to know, but that would do a number on my curiosity. And I'm sure we all love being curious. But sometimes, it's more fulfilling to be curious than all knowing.

Now that that cluster fuck of words is done, I'll just say that I may come around, but not as often as I used to. If any of you have any questions for me, I will happily answer them in the subposts(?) to this post.

RedAppleGP wrote:Now, I can better understand that there are Christians that are more rational than me!

They may be more rational than you in other areas, but you are ahead of them when it comes to religion.

Don't worry too much about coming across as an anushole. Once you are a real vegan you are also a vegan ambassador, and as such you should realize that there are things at stake more important than how you are perceived by others in the short term.

Welcome back!

Jebus wrote: Once you are a real vegan you are also a vegan ambassador,

Of course, in that case, it can be good to be reasonably diplomatic too.

Hi, welcome back!

And happy birthday.

Questions, well....
What happened to your profile picture?

Jebus wrote:

RedAppleGP wrote:Now, I can better understand that there are Christians that are more rational than me!

They may be more rational than you in other areas, but you are ahead of them when it comes to religion.

Okay that's true.

Jebus wrote: worry too much about coming across as an anushole. Once you are a real vegan you are also a vegan ambassador, and as such you should realize that there are things at stake more important than how you are perceived by others in the short term.

Alrighty. However, now, I will do it more subtle, because i don't really want to cross the line. But thanks!

EquALLity wrote:Hi, welcome back!

And happy birthday.

Gee, thanks! It's good to be back. And thanks for the Happy birthday!

EquALLity wrote:Questions, well....
What happened to your profile picture?

I removed my profile pic a few months back because at the time I was planning on never coming back. I may or may nor reupload it, but we'll see what happens.

RedAppleGP wrote: Gee, thanks! It's good to be back. And thanks for the Happy birthday!

And it's good to have you back!

You're welcome.
Are you doing anything special for your birthday?

RedAppleGP wrote: I removed my profile pic a few months back because at the time I was planning on never coming back. I may or may nor reupload it, but we'll see what happens.

Oh wow. Well I'm glad that you decided to come back.

brimstoneSalad wrote:Welcome back!

Jebus wrote: Once you are a real vegan you are also a vegan ambassador,

Of course, in that case, it can be good to be reasonably diplomatic too.

That's always the big question. Do I come on so softly that my message is barely noticed or do I attack so strongly that the message is heard but potentially rejected due to personal dislike. Perhaps this question is worthy of its own thread.

Jebus wrote: That's always the big question. Do I come on so softly that my message is barely noticed or do I attack so strongly that the message is heard but potentially rejected due to personal dislike. Perhaps this question is worthy of its own thread.

Absolutely. And lots of research. It's a balancing act, and there's probably calculus involved in there somewhere with the sociology, psychology and economics.
Unnatural Vegan is spending a lot of time on this topic on her channel.
https://www.youtube.com/user/FitOnRaw

It's a tough question. One that certainly has an empirical answer, but that's difficult to determine. It's certainly something that deserves more attention than it gets.

Welcome back to the forum, RedAppleGP. I'm glad to here that you would still like to participate in discussions with us.

RedAppleGP wrote:yea, I mostly thought that religious people were the most irrational people on the planet, like that fuckface Cult of Dusty

Considering the type of adjective that you used to describe Dusty, I assume that you dislike him. Why? Do you feel that his negative criticism of religious people is wrong, or too strong (generalizes them and portrays many of them as even more irrational than they actually are)? Is it his excessive cursing, or perhaps his obnoxious style of speaking? All of the above? I could understand that many people would get rubbed the wrong way by him, so I'd like to hear your opinion on him. Thank you.