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Rita_Skeeter
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Hello,

I am 19 years old and since I'm very interested in the topics discussed in this forum I decided to join. I am an Atheist, but I was raised in a Catholic family. I went vegetarian as soon as I moved out. 99% of my diet is Vegan, but I still can't bring myself to deny my mother's cheesecake, pizza etc. when I'm visiting her and my family. :roll: (They are heavy meat-eaters and don't (want to) understand why I'm vegetarian.)

Best wishes!

(Also sorry for any mistakes in my writing - English is not my mother tongue.)
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Hi, welcome! :D

How did you become an atheist, and what got you interested in vegetarianism/veganism?
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Welcome to the forum, Rita_Skeeter, I look forward to seeing your insights on various discussion topics. Glad to hear that you're making such good progress towards becoming vegan. 99% vegan diet is already very good so far, and I'm confident that you can make it all the way. Sorry to hear that your family are not expressing interest in something that is clearly important to you. They might think that since you're young, that you're only "going through a phase" and they don't expect you to be vegetarian or vegan for very long. If you can demonstrate that this is important to you then maybe they will ask about it more. They might change. My parents were a little troubled, and even resistant to me going vegan at first, but eventually they became accepting of it.

How easy or difficult do you find it to be vegan in Germany? I've been to Germany several times to visit family, but that was before I was vegan (or even vegetarian). What are your reasons for being vegan? Are you doing it for animals? Or more so for your health or environmental reasons?
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Welcome Rita. When I first became vegetarian some 14 years ago my father said "at least your not a vegan, you know those crazy people who run around throwing blood on people wearing fur."

When I actually became a vegan a few years later, he thought I had been brainwashed by my boss, who was a charismatic (semi-famous) person who traveled around the world promoting vegetarianism and animal rights.

A few weeks ago when visiting my parents (who are almost 80 years old) they told me that they agree with what I am doing and that they might go vegan themselves.

What I am trying to say is that people change. Just keep throwing tiny bits of information at them and they might eventually come along.
How to become vegan in 4.5 hours:
1.Watch Forks over Knives (Health)
2.Watch Cowspiracy (Environment)
3. Watch Earthlings (Ethics)
Congratulations, unless you are a complete idiot you are now a vegan.
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Thanks a lot for all your kind words!

Even as a child I always found it very odd what these people were talking about in the church. A man who died on a cross and then resurrected? What? I am a very rationally thinking human so as I became older I realised this just couldn't be right and that it was against the laws of nature.

As for vegetarianism/veganism I have to say that I always loved animals. My "aha moment" was when I first saw Earthlings on the internet. I was so shocked. I read all these articles about what really happens to animals (mostly by PETA) and decided I couldn't support this any longer. I was about 16 years old at that time. The reason why I didn't really became a vegetarian back then were mostly my parents. When I told them I didn't want to eat meat any more they startet to laugh and thought I was kidding. As i explained my reasons for this decision they put the usual "arguments" of health and "how it's always been that way". (Maybe one day will understand.) Since I really didn't have much self esteem back then I just couldn't convince my parents to allow me to eat vegetarian only. So i postponed my conversion to vegetarian until I moved out and here I finally am, having a mostly vegan diet.

I really think that every being that can feel should have the right to life and physical integrity - animals (and not only the fluffy and cute ones) and humans alike. I actually don't care too much about health, so I'm "only" doing it for the animals.
ArmouredAbolitionist wrote:How easy or difficult do you find it to be vegan in Germany? I've been to Germany several times to visit family, but that was before I was vegan (or even vegetarian).
I think that eating meat is something deeply rooted in German culture and since I'm from Bavaria it's even more extreme. (Google "Bavarian food" ;) ) In rural areas (where I grew up) it can be difficult but I am now living in a big city and it's much more easier here to live vegan.
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Rita_Skeeter wrote:I really think that every being that can feel should have the right to life and physical integrity - animals (and not only the fluffy and cute ones) and humans alike. I actually don't care too much about health, so I'm "only" doing it for the animals.
Not only the fluffy and cute ones? I'm pleased to hear that. It's not rational to respect animals based upon their appearance. It's better to respect them because they are sentient individuals with the capacity to suffer, who value their lives just as we do. I find it worrisome how many people (especially meat-eaters) seem to treat animals based upon emotions and sentiment rather than well-thought out ethical reasons. Most people would be outraged if they saw someone kick and punch a cow on the side of the road, but wouldn't be outraged to know that a cow had a knife shoved into its throat at a slaughterhouse to end up on their plate (which is also unnecessary violence).

I also avoid animal products mostly for ethical reasons. Although I care deeply about being healthy, and my eating habits may demonstrate me to be a "health nut", I would be vegan even if it did not present health benefits.
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Welcome Rita!
I'm glad you found us.

99% is quite good, I definitely understand your situation. I hope your parents will come around. Maybe you can help by bringing some vegan cheesecake some time? Are you much into cooking?
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brimstoneSalad wrote:Welcome Rita!
I'm glad you found us.

99% is quite good, I definitely understand your situation. I hope your parents will come around. Maybe you can help by bringing some vegan cheesecake some time? Are you much into cooking?
Thanks!

Yes, I actually made a vegan cherry cake for my family a few weeks ago - they all enjoyed it! Step by step... :)
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That's great!

This sounds like the perfect case for reaching them through "food evangelism". I would just continue to make and bring some really delicious vegan foods. And if you bring so much vegan food, it will also be easier for you to avoid the non-vegan food.
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Welcome Rita!
Yes, I actually made a vegan cherry cake for my family a few weeks ago - they all enjoyed it! Step by step... :)
That sounds delicious! Would you mind sharing the recipe? :D
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