Philosophical Vegan Forum

So as some of you may know, I am currently going to a Catholic High School. Archbishop Molly High School to be exact. Aaaand as much as I hate to admit this, it is awesome. Sure, it has the most arbitrary rules in the history of anything ever, but the fact that I get to wear a f*cking tie makes up for it. I have some friends I met at the Frosh camp (I was MVP at dat sh*t), and they don't force religion as much as you may or may not expect. sure they have a cross from my geometry to my earth science class, but it's not like we do a prayer in every class. Except for Italian, we just say the Hail Mary in Italian (as in the language, you dingus). We even learn evolution. But it's a catholic school, and the catholics are more tolerant of evolution.

And, since it's a religion school, we do in fact have religion class. And you most likely expect for the teacher to say "jsut follwo ur hert n beleeve in jsus" or some of that kind of sh*t. But, no. My teacher doesn't fool around. Here is a basic summary of what happened the other day..

>teacher asks "why should you believe in God?"
>student says "Because I know he exists"
>"How do you know he exists?"
>"Because I know in my heart"
>"Well how can you prove that he is in your heart?"

Yeah that isn't 100% like it happened, but still, it's ironic, especially when you expect for the teacher to just say believe and be done with that. Don't be surprised if I actually change religion within 5 months.

Say your thoughts.

Seems like they force religion on you to me, but it is a Catholic school...

RedAppleGP wrote:Yeah that isn't 100% like it happened, but still, it's ironic, especially when you expect for the teacher to just say believe and be done with that. Don't be surprised if I actually change religion within 5 months.

I don't see why you'd convert, unless the teacher provides evidence for a god (his version of 'God'), or a logical argument for his existence. And since that's not going to happen, because the god in the Catholicism is self-contradictory...

Yeah they're not forcing anything. The teacher says that you have to have evidence to believe, but whatever.

RedAppleGP wrote:Yeah they're not forcing anything. The teacher says that you have to have evidence to believe, but whatever.

They have you say prayers, they put religious stuff all over the school, and the idea of the school is that Catholicism is the correct religion.

The teacher says you have to have evidence to believe? What's the evidence, then?

By that, I meant you have to have reason for believing in a God.

RedAppleGP wrote:By that, I meant you have to have reason for believing in a God.

Are you saying that the teacher said (and that you agree with) that you should have a good reason if you believe in a god?

Or that people who believe in a god have 'reasons', and that maybe therefore we should take a second look at religion? Because why would they believe in it without 'reason'?

the former.

Update: I'm pretty sure I was giving my relgion teacher waaay too much credit. My view on God has hardly changed. She commits logical fallacies (usually anecdotal fallacies) yet always tells us not to commit them. For instance, we were discussing abortion, and I brought up "Well what about the lower income families?" and she responded by saying that she had, like, 7 siblings and she grew up in a poor household, so by my logic she should have been aborted. I would've said she used a fallacy, but fallacy hunting in those types of situations make you come across as just an asshole so I just kept my mouth shut. Anyway, she isn't as smart as I made her out to be and I haven't seen any claim she has made this year, well, good.

To quote Monsoon from Metal Gear Rising

Free will is a myth. Religion is a joke.