Philosophical Vegan Forum

" I don't think god is someone in the sky or someone who lives in paradise or something like that. For me god is the power of creation and is everything that's how I see it. Paradise or hell are not really something you go in the afterlife and we don't even know if there is an afterlife to begin with. If you do bad things bad things will happen to you (hell) and if you do good things good things will happen to you (paradise). For me god is like what it make things happen like they happen for example the way you start a fire will always be the same it can't be random because it's like that. I think god is the father and we are the son (not only Jesus) Because god is the creator or let's say the power of creation so the father and the son are god, the father is god, the son is god and everything is god. As for the holy spirit I don't really know how to explain it but I would say it's like our consciousness " Sorry I am bad at explaining but I hope you all understand me.

" I just give you my point of view on this " So what do you think?

This is called pantheist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

Does that sound like what you believe?

Fluttershy wrote:Paradise or hell are not really something you go in the afterlife and we don't even know if there is an afterlife to begin with. If you do bad things bad things will happen to you (hell) and if you do good things good things will happen to you (paradise).

That seems to be completely false. Countless people have gotten filthy rich off the backs of others. Bad deeds often result in good things happening to you. Where do the bad things happen, if not after death?

I don't think god is someone in the sky or someone who lives in paradise or something like that. For me god is the power of creation and is everything that's how I see it. [...] For me god is like what it make things happen like they happen for example the way you start a fire will always be the same it can't be random because it's like that.

What makes you think there is anything that makes fire be lit the same way every time?

I think god is the father and we are the son (not only Jesus) Because god is the creator or let's say the power of creation so the father and the son are god, the father is god, the son is god and everything is god. As for the holy spirit I don't really know how to explain it but I would say it's like our consciousness. Sorry I am bad at explaining but I hope you all understand me.

The question of whether or not a god would be our father is a rather pointless one if we can't establish a god exists.

@brimstoneSalad Yes it sounds similar

@miniboes By my example I ment that if you light a match it will always catch on fire and about bad things if the person is aware of it do you think he will feel good about it? How about when he die will he die unhappy or happy?

Fluttershy wrote:@miniboes By my example I ment that if you light a match it will always catch on fire

Sure, but what makes you think there is some kind of entity or force regulating that?

Fluttershy wrote:and about bad things if the person is aware of it do you think he will feel good about it? How about when he die will he die unhappy or happy?

Is hell just a feeling of regret, then? Is my regret of eating meat for 15 years hell in your view?

@miniboes I don't think an entity is doing that. I don't really know how to explain it I'm bad at it like I said earlier. Hell is not only a feeling of regret Hell and heaven is similar to karma.

Your would view is kinda naive (no offense), i used to think that if you did bad stuff bad stuff happened and if you did good stuff bad stuff happened, nowadays i'm less pessimistic and believe that whether good or bad stuff happens to you is kinda random.
Anyway, i only have one question though, your profile says you're a christian, but you don't seem like one, christianity is the religious belief that Jesus was the saviour of humanity, do you think that way?

If there is a force in the universe similar to karma, why do we need a law and punishment system? If "god" takes care of justice, why do we need to?

Mateo3112 wrote:Your would view is kinda naive (no offense), i used to think that if you did bad stuff bad stuff happened and if you did good stuff bad stuff happened, nowadays i'm less pessimistic and believe that whether good or bad stuff happens to you is kinda random.
Anyway, i only have one question though, your profile says you're a christian, but you don't seem like one, christianity is the religious belief that Jesus was the saviour of humanity, do you think that way?

By this I mean your future will depend on your action. Yes my profile say I'm a christian and I have my own view on this religion I'm not the one who will read the bible and believe in every words and do everything in it. When I read it I have my own understanding of it I don't take everything literally and my view on christianity is close to pantheism and if you don't know what is it you can see.

bobo0100 wrote:If there is a force in the universe similar to karma, why do we need a law and punishment system? If "god" takes care of justice, why do we need to?

Your future depend on your actions. We need laws because if we would not have laws everyone would do what they want and "god" doesn't really take care of justice or yes we could say he take care of justice because god is everything and everything is god so we are god too.