Lets talk about ISLAM
- The Turbanator
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Lets talk about ISLAM
To Ignore ISLAM as a Factor in Islamic Terrorism is to Ignore the Problem, there are Many Many Many Verses in the Quran that objectively speaking Support "Terrorism" and whenever someone points that out the media and society calls them a "Racist" (Even tho Islam is Not a Race) and completely Valid arguments get ignored simply because we dont want to Offend someone. I am looking for ways to effectively Crush Islam (But not Other Religions) and i way that is idiot proof so that non Muslims or moderate Muslims will be able to see that the quarn is not the word of God and that Mohamed was not a prophet. People have to understand that NONE ARE EXEMPT FROM CRITICISM!!!
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Re: Lets talk about ISLAM
Well it seems like you don't talk to many religious people. In my opinion you can't say anything that will change a persons mind if they don't want to. I mean, firstly most religious people works from the conclusion (that the holy book is true) and builds proof after that. Second of all people will find 100 excuses to what you're saying. Lets say that the quran says that you have to kill everyone who diss believe then they will tell you that in that time it was different, that that passage is talking about that the other people declared war before, that they meant people something else and then they will tell you that you have no right to tell them how to interpret their religion.The Turbanator wrote: I am looking for ways to effectively Crush Islam (But not Other Religions) and i way that is idiot proof so that non Muslims or moderate Muslims will be able to see that the quarn is not the word of God and that Mohamed was not a prophet. People have to understand that NONE ARE EXEMPT FROM CRITICISM!!!
I mean that is just the way religion works and the only way you can change a persons mind in my opinion is thru conversation with respect (since religion is such a big part of their life it can be a sensitive area) and ask them questions like "do you think god would have wanted his prophet to do this and this?" or "do you think that god is fair in sending me to hell just because what I think and would you really be happy in heaven?" Often just reading the holy book and opening their eyes to the world will leave a person not believing,
And one other thing: I agree with you that terrorism has its roots in islam and one of the reasons why ISIS is doing what they are doing is because of how they see their religion. But please don't forget that they are killing hundreds if not thousands of people that claim that they are muslims too everyday.
So of course no one is exempt form criticism, but there are no argument in the world that would get a religious person to change his/her faith straight away. Those things are subjective and depends from person to person. The only thing we can do is to try to wake up the new generations by telling them that science is the right way, not be demonizing them.
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Re: Lets talk about ISLAM
Ok, thanks!
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Re: Lets talk about ISLAM
What some people are doing is not so much ignoring, as redefining the narrative.
Have you heard about the golem effect?
Have you heard about the golem effect?