Debunking Muslim arguments
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Debunking Muslim arguments
How do you debunk the supposed scientific miracles that are mentioned in the Quoran ?
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Re: Debunking Muslim arguments
You don't.rba wrote:How do you debunk the supposed scientific miracles that are mentioned in the Quoran ?
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” ― Christopher Hitchens
What you're talking about is eisegesis, a bunch of reading into metaphor and re-interpretation.
The Islamic claims are meaningless, and without evidence. You can do the same with a careful reading of any ancient scripture or poetry. Want a description of Quantum Physics in Beowulf? Sure thing! If you're willing to stretch the interpretation far enough, and accept very vague reasoning.
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Not to mention the one i get thrown in my face all the time. The Jehovas Witnesses WW1 prophecy. What they said was "in 1914 there will be a significant development". and then WW1 started. Really could have said that in any year and there would be something to take credit for. Not to mention, if they really were to predict something, it ought to have been the year 1939 with WW2 which was clearly the most impactfull war. Not to mention, if they had missed the start of ww1 by a few years in advance, they would have found some minor factor contributing in leading to the war, and said "this was the point it went downhill". Or had they missed a few years past the start of the war they would have found some event in the war and said that it was a huge factor in the war, or perhaps towards ending it.
I can say now that within the next 2 months something will shock people across the globe. And then perhaps a terrorist attack happens after 1 month, and i can claim i predicted that. Tell the Muslims, the Christians, and anyone else. Come up with a prediction that cannot be interpreted. Or manufactured. it must be specific. And that is where is fails. You guys are familiar with the least successful prophet? Ezekiel. what he did wrong in his many prophecies that all failed, was being specific. Mentioned places, time frames. And so on, and then there we could clearly see when he got it wrong. He even attempted to manufacture prophecies. Funny how the bible thumbers like to avoid talking about Ezekiel.
I can say now that within the next 2 months something will shock people across the globe. And then perhaps a terrorist attack happens after 1 month, and i can claim i predicted that. Tell the Muslims, the Christians, and anyone else. Come up with a prediction that cannot be interpreted. Or manufactured. it must be specific. And that is where is fails. You guys are familiar with the least successful prophet? Ezekiel. what he did wrong in his many prophecies that all failed, was being specific. Mentioned places, time frames. And so on, and then there we could clearly see when he got it wrong. He even attempted to manufacture prophecies. Funny how the bible thumbers like to avoid talking about Ezekiel.
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Re: Debunking Muslim arguments
True, I agree with that as I know how complicated and weird(not sure how to describe it; you can reach multiple meanings from one source and do the opposite or something like that) the Arabic language is. Yet the quran has its own version of weirdness and complexity that goes beyond the Arabic language itself.
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Muslim "scientific" miracles are so vague that they are able to apply it to whatever they want for propaganda. You should bring up all in immense scientific inaccuracies in the Qur'an