Philosophical Vegan Forum

Yo. I am very angry today because for some Hillary shills are spreading lies on social media that Jill Stein, the lovely candidate for the Green Party and the only one of the four major parties who has never been a Republican, is against vaccine. This is BULLSHIT! Jill Stein is a DOCTOR - SHE IS PRO-SCIENCE!!! She says that Vaccine is VERY NECESSARY! but financial interests should not regulate him. IT IS HILLARY CLINTON WHO IS ANTI-VACCINE! IN 2008, SHE IS SAY TO REMOVE THIMEROSAL AND MERCURY FROM VACCINE BECAUSE FOR THEY CAUSE AUTISM. THIS IS BULLSHIT WHAT SHE IS SAY. THIMEROSAL, WHO IS CONTAIN MERCURY, WAS REMOVED FROM USA VACCINE IN 2001, IT WILL RECOGNIZED AS SAFE IN 2004. HILLARY IS AGAINST VACCINE. HILLARY IS AGAINST SCIENCE. JILL STEIN SUPPORTS VACCINE. JILL STEIN SUPPORTS SCIENCE. VOTE FOR VACCINE! VOTE FOR SCIENCE! VOTE FOR GREEN!

She is completely wrong on the science on her very most important issue though; she thinks we should tackle climate change without nuclear energy. This is the problem with every green party I know of; they correctly identify climate change as one of the most important issues of our time, which is in line with science, but then throw out the best solution we have, completely ignoring the science (and economics).

miniboes wrote:She is completely wrong on the science on her very most important issue though; she thinks we should tackle climate change without nuclear energy. This is the problem with every green party I know of; they correctly identify climate change as one of the most important issues of our time, which is in line with science, but then throw out the best solution we have, completely ignoring the science (and economics).

Is it not better to use renewable energy (Solar, Wind, Geothermal, etc.) than Nuclear power? Isn't nuclear power dangerous? Isn't nuclear power expensive?

I am not saying it is, I am just asking questions.

miniboes wrote:She is completely wrong on the science on her very most important issue though; she thinks we should tackle climate change without nuclear energy. This is the problem with every green party I know of; they correctly identify climate change as one of the most important issues of our time, which is in line with science, but then throw out the best solution we have, completely ignoring the science (and economics).

If I remember correctly, they are also pro homeopathy, which is not good in my eyes. I would be able to get behind the Green Party if it wasn't for that and their stance on nuclear.

She's anti-vax lite and strongly panders to anti-vax people.

EquALLity wrote:She's anti-vax lite and strongly panders to anti-vax people.

This. She thinks there's a massive conspiracy and that big pharma is controlling medical organizations and government regulation on vaccination.
She's also anti-GMO, anti-Nuclear Power, and generally a nutter AFAIK.

Yes, there are people in this race that make Sanders look like a sensible mainstream science-literate.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2016/07/27/jill_stein_is_not_the_savior_the_left_is_looking_for.html

Can we at least agree that Trump would probably be better than Stein? At a certain point, liberal crazy has to be worse than conservative crazy.

brimstoneSalad wrote:

EquALLity wrote:She's anti-vax lite and strongly panders to anti-vax people.

This. She thinks there's a massive conspiracy and that big pharma is controlling medical organizations and government regulation on vaccination.
She's also anti-GMO, anti-Nuclear Power, and generally a nutter AFAIK.

Yes, there are people in this race that make Sanders look like a sensible mainstream science-literate.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2016/07/27/jill_stein_is_not_the_savior_the_left_is_looking_for.html

Can we at least agree that Trump would probably be better than Stein? At a certain point, liberal crazy has to be worse than conservative crazy.

What is vax lite? I have never heard the phrase used before, if you mean as in she is anti-vaccine but less anti-vaccine than an anti-vaccine, then NO. That is Hillary. Shillary Diane Rodham Adolf Shitface Clinton is anti-vaccine and is only starting to pander to people in 2015 by claiming she is pro-vaccine. Why would you say Trump is better than Stein? He is against Vaccine and thinks Global Warming is a chinese conspiracy. He is also a racist and so is Hillary. JILL STEIN IS THE LOVELIEST CANDIDATE. She does not pander to anti-vaccine people because in her Twitter she is always saying she is pro-vaccine. Hitlery Clinton is the Anti-Science Candidate! She believes in fracking! It will make a death to a earth! Hillary Clinton does not want to legalize weed and 4/20 blaze it because for she does not think it safe despite all the scientific consensus that it is safer than alcohol, Clinton still wants to continue to war on drugs. MAKE A VOTE FOR SCIENCE! MAKE A VOTE FOR SOCIALISM! MAKE A VOTE FOR PEACE! MAKE A VOTE FOR A LOVELY CANDIDATE TO BRING JOY TO ALL THE WORLD'S NATIONS! MAKE A VOTE FOR JILL STEIN AND GREEN PARTY!

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miniboes wrote:She is completely wrong on the science on her very most important issue though; she thinks we should tackle climate change without nuclear energy. This is the problem with every green party I know of; they correctly identify climate change as one of the most important issues of our time, which is in line with science, but then throw out the best solution we have, completely ignoring the science (and economics).

If I remember correctly, they are also pro homeopathy, which is not good in my eyes. I would be able to get behind the Green Party if it wasn't for that and their stance on nuclear.

Jill is not Pro-Homeopathy but her party is.

brimstoneSalad wrote:

EquALLity wrote:She's anti-vax lite and strongly panders to anti-vax people.

This. She thinks there's a massive conspiracy and that big pharma is controlling medical organizations and government regulation on vaccination.
She's also anti-GMO, anti-Nuclear Power, and generally a nutter AFAIK.

Yes, there are people in this race that make Sanders look like a sensible mainstream science-literate.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2016/07/27/jill_stein_is_not_the_savior_the_left_is_looking_for.html

Can we at least agree that Trump would probably be better than Stein? At a certain point, liberal crazy has to be worse than conservative crazy.

Thanks for the link, that's interesting. But keep in mind that anyone can write on Slate, so it's not necessarily a credible source.

I don't think Trump would be better than Stein.

I think that Jill Stein would be worse than Clinton, partially because of the anti-science stuff (Trump has also heavily pandered to anti-vax people and recommended people span out their vaccines because of autism, btw, not to mention calling climate change a hoax), but also because (like that article references with Wall Street, though I don't know the details with that either, but a Presidential candidate obviously should) she doesn't generally seem to really know what she's talking about. I watched a live-stream of her calling the NSA the 'National Security Association' (albeit not as bad as Trump making up departments that don't exist and giving them grammatically incorrect names that don't even align with his made up abbreviation). She also barely has any significant experience as an elected official. She's never been a member of Congress or worked at all for the federal government (though again, Trump has never been elected to anything). Her closest thing to that kind of experience is being elected to town meeting in Lexington, Massachusetts. I think it was pretty ridiculous for someone who had been in politics his entire life and was the longest serving independent in Congress (Bernie) to be attacked on experience, but Jill Stein has barely any experience at all.

He directly correlates vaccines to autism and even says he has a personal experience with a child who became autistic due to vaccines. He says vaccines look like they're for horses, not a beautiful child, and that parents should space out vaccines. It's disgusting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHKlRik26RM

He's more anti-vax then Jill Stein.