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what not to say to vegans

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:45 am
by Twizelby
So I think we may have covered this in a different way a few months ago but I want to bring it up again. I see that VA's forum is growing with a lot of different people with really unique and interesting backgrounds. That's awesome! I just want to make it clear that there are things that you shouldn't say to vegans if you want meaningful dialogue. If you do eat meat then you can also leave comments of things that you are tired of hearing from vegans. That being said if something you write that vegans say a lot is a valid argument, then I am sure many Vegan members would be glad to dissect the argument and defend it.
-I ate or am going to eat a steak
-for every burger you don't eat I am going to eat two
-veganism doesn't change anything
-Lions do it so should I
-why aren't vegans stopping lions from eating zebra
-it's too expensive to go vegan
-veganism is a religion

Re: what not to say to vegans

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:59 am
by thebestofenergy
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5
You can see other examples of similar things here.
The most used argument against veganism is an appeal to nature logical fallacy, the second one is that people consider veganism is too 'extreme' (yes, people think that not harming sentient beings is extreme). That's in my experience however.

Re: what not to say to vegans

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:03 pm
by Shadow Fox
Twizelby wrote:-for every burger you don't eat I am going to eat two
LOL!
I love that one!

I wouldn't say it myself but its funny to me.

I noticed one thing that for some vegans. Even mentioning that you eat meat is enough to make them angry at you. It is almost like they "know" you do. But, the moment you mention how much you like X or LOVE X, they get super angry at you and claim your trying to be an instigator.

Its not a lot of them that do it but a few I see have before.

Re: what not to say to vegans

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:15 am
by Neptual
Shadow Fox wrote: But, the moment you mention how much you like X or LOVE X, they get super angry at you and claim your trying to be an instigator.
How is that not being an instigator. If you know the person's vegan and you tell them that you love eating meat its equivalent to talking to a Christian and telling them how you love worshipping Satan.

Re: what not to say to vegans

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:27 am
by TheVeganAtheist
Shadow Fox wrote:
Twizelby wrote:-for every burger you don't eat I am going to eat two
LOL!
I love that one!

I wouldn't say it myself but its funny to me.

I noticed one thing that for some vegans. Even mentioning that you eat meat is enough to make them angry at you. It is almost like they "know" you do. But, the moment you mention how much you like X or LOVE X, they get super angry at you and claim your trying to be an instigator.

Its not a lot of them that do it but a few I see have before.
imagine going to a support forum for rape victims and telling them how much you love to force yourself on others. Comments should reflect the nature of the forum. If you have opinions that are contrary to the forum members, present it in a mature fashion.