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I have a few questions about both.

First one, dose Hillary want Open Boarders? I've tried to do some fact checking, and have been coming up with even on both sides. Also, what dose it mean to have Open Boarders. My conservative parents say that it means anyone can come in at any time. But I have a feeling they are over exaggerating it a bit.

Second, would Trump b better than Hillary? I hear too often how Trump is the lesser of two evils. After a bit of searching, I found most of what Hillary says she will do is aligned with me, and Trump's seems less organized. But I still hear often that Trump is better.

Third, are the polls being rigged. I read up that not even the FBI can rig the polls, yet all I hear is how they are being rigged to vote for Hillary. I think this is a far stretch from the truth, and that the right side is just shooting at invisible birds.

Finally, I know third party candidates are a no go, America is just not ready. Gray is useless, and Jill tends to do little fact check but her views are great. So would it be better not to vote at all. I want to lie to my folks and just say a friend took me at school to vote on Nov 8th, because they are pressuring me to vote for Trump. But I am honestly thinking that it is a horrible idea to vote for him, and from all the negative I have heard about Hillary. Granted all they have on his fox news, it's like they are slowly brainwashing me by having it played in the background all day, though i have done fact checking, it's just not adding up.

What I want is a few opinions from people who have no gain to lie to me. And after looking through it, you people don't know me, you only know what you've read up and heard, and have no motive to lie as my vote wouldn't count much of anything. But, I do want a honest opinion on the facts you'v read, and possible places I can read up on it. I am truly at a lost.

Thanks!

Did you see this post?
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=26249

Democrats are almost always better on animal welfare. On animal issues, Hillary is better. Of course, there's more than one issue at hand.

JadeSpeedster17 wrote: First one, dose Hillary want Open Boarders?

It's not clear.

We only know that this isn't her position now. She may or may not want this some day, kind of like you might say you want everybody to have free health care. But it's more of an "I have a dream" thing.
This isn't relevant to the next four or eight years.

JadeSpeedster17 wrote: Also, what dose it mean to have Open Boarders. My conservative parents say that it means anyone can come in at any time. But I have a feeling they are over exaggerating it a bit.

It doesn't mean anybody can come at any time, open borders are still borders, and they check to make sure you're not a criminal or terrorist.
It means that people can come to work from Canada or Mexico, or other countries we have alliances with, and that Americans can go there to work or vacation, or even retire freely. Basically, you can go and live where you want (within the countries we have an alliance with), and there's not a lot of bureaucratic red tape and limited visas and stuff.

Mexicans already come here to work on visa programs, they do most of our vegetable picking. This would become easier. And professionals like doctors and scientists would be able to come and work too. Or even come to teach language, and you could just go to South America for a few years to teach English if you wanted. Whatever.

People who are xenophobic are scared of open borders. However, this is irrelevant to the current political cycle, and it's blown out of proportion. We don't even know if Hillary wants this, but if she does it's not a bad thing.

JadeSpeedster17 wrote: Second, would Trump b better than Hillary? I hear too often how Trump is the lesser of two evils. After a bit of searching, I found most of what Hillary says she will do is aligned with me, and Trump's seems less organized. But I still hear often that Trump is better.

Based on my reading, I don't believe that Trump is better than Hillary. I've evaluated the candidates with an open mind, and his rude behavior doesn't influence my view of his policies.

JadeSpeedster17 wrote: Third, are the polls being rigged. I read up that not even the FBI can rig the polls, yet all I hear is how they are being rigged to vote for Hillary. I think this is a far stretch from the truth, and that the right side is just shooting at invisible birds.

You are correct. This is a crazy conspiracy theory from the right.
The Polls are conducted scientifically, they aren't rigged.

JadeSpeedster17 wrote: Finally, I know third party candidates are a no go, America is just not ready. Gray is useless, and Jill tends to do little fact check but her views are great. So would it be better not to vote at all. I want to lie to my folks and just say a friend took me at school to vote on Nov 8th, because they are pressuring me to vote for Trump.

If you're going to lie, I suggest you just vote for Hillary and say you voted for Trump. It's 100% anonymous. Your parents will never know. Her policies are just better.

Third parties are a waste of a vote, but it is important to vote if you are able.

JadeSpeedster17 wrote: But I am honestly thinking that it is a horrible idea to vote for him, and from all the negative I have heard about Hillary. Granted all they have on his fox news, it's like they are slowly brainwashing me by having it played in the background all day, though i have done fact checking, it's just not adding up.

Your assessment is correct.
Actually, Hillary is more conservative and a better Republican than Trump on a number of issues.

She has her problems -- she's a bit of a war hawk -- but by far her good policies outnumber Trump's.
When Trump started the race I had high hopes for him, because he was saying some sensible stuff -- he actually wanted a single payer option for healthcare, he wanted to end the war on drugs by decriminalizing them, and a few other things. He has mostly flip flopped on all of that and chosen bad positions to appeal to a base he has been losing.