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Trump- my thoughts and concerns

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First off, I am amazed how the U.S. can see things so differently from the rest of the world. I work mostly with Europeans and over the past year I have probably spoken to 250 Europeans about Trump. Not one of them had anything positive to say about the man. In fact, about 90% of them expressed a severe dislike of Trump.

Where I live (in Mauritius) people hadn't heard about Trump until recently and now everyone seems to think that he is a racist. This is actually one of the Trump criticisms I disagree with. I don't see any past actions that suggest that he is a racist. The comments he made about Mexican illegal immigrants being rapists is just a sign of his lack of awareness and understanding rather than racism. I actually think his reputation as a racist helped him get elected as a significant part of Americans are racist and pretty much all of them voted for Trump. Anyways, my concerns are the following:

He seems to have no impulse control.
He doesn't seem to have any compassion (except for himself and his family). A positive recent trend among American billionaires is to give away a large portion of one's fortune. Trump is the one who has given the least of all American billionaires.
He highly overestimates his intellect. He is a man of very average intelligence, I would estimate it between 100 and 110, but he seems to think he is a genius. I think this sense of intellectual superiority will make him less likely to listen to his advisers..
He completely dismisses climate change, which to me is the most important issue facing the world.

Ending on a happy note, I don't think he will run for a second term. Being president is just something that was on his bucket list and he will soon realize that it is a difficult job with a lot of hard work. His approval ratings will hit an all time low as he will be unable to actualize his impossible campaign promises. I believe the Bernie Sanders phenomenon will continue to grow and in four years a younger, more charismatic version of Sanders will step up to the plate and the USA will never again be the same.
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Well, it's not all bad: http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2612

I hope you're right about the one term thing. Or maybe his son will take over after that.

It's pretty terrible overall, but I guess it will be interesting...
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brimstoneSalad wrote:maybe his son will take over after that.
More likely Ivanka. She is the most popular of the Trumps and I'm sure her dad would love to push the whole first lady president thing.
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Jebus wrote:
brimstoneSalad wrote:maybe his son will take over after that.
More likely Ivanka. She is the most popular of the Trumps and I'm sure her dad would love to push the whole first lady president thing.
She's not U.S. born is she?
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brimstoneSalad wrote:
Jebus wrote:
brimstoneSalad wrote:maybe his son will take over after that.
More likely Ivanka. She is the most popular of the Trumps and I'm sure her dad would love to push the whole first lady president thing.
She's not U.S. born is she?
Yeah, she is. Why did you think she wasn't?

Why would his family take over? O_O Oh jesus christ, please don't let that happen...
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Jebus wrote:First off, I am amazed how the U.S. can see things so differently from the rest of the world. I work mostly with Europeans and over the past year I have probably spoken to 250 Europeans about Trump. Not one of them had anything positive to say about the man. In fact, about 90% of them expressed a severe dislike of Trump.
I don't think the people you meet make a up a representative sample :P
All European countries I can think of have their own Trump-like candidates (I'd say they're much smarter than Trump, though) -- the situation seems almost identical. Petry, Le Pen, Orban, Wilders, Farage etc.. They also stand to get around the same level of support (~20% of voters). It's just harder for them to become prime minister/president because we don't have the same 2-party system as the US. They also rage against all the same things as Trump: globalism, political correctness, Islam..
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EquALLity wrote: Yeah, she is. Why did you think she wasn't?
Oh, I was thinking of Ivana. I guess I'll need to figure out who his wives are and who his daughters are since he's the next leader of the free world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivana_Trump
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brimstoneSalad wrote:
EquALLity wrote: Yeah, she is. Why did you think she wasn't?
Oh, I was thinking of Ivana. I guess I'll need to figure out who his wives are and who his daughters are since he's the next leader of the free world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivana_Trump
Not much of a difference really, he wants to sleep with all of them.
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knot wrote:
Jebus wrote:All European countries I can think of have their own Trump-like candidates (I'd say they're much smarter than Trump, though) -- the situation seems almost identical. Petry, Le Pen, Orban, Wilders, Farage etc.. They also stand to get around the same level of support (~20% of voters). It's just harder for them to become prime minister/president because we don't have the same 2-party system as the US. They also rage against all the same things as Trump: globalism, political correctness, Islam..
You pointed out the main difference, i.e. these people come across as intelligent. The European "Trumps" also come across as level headed, honest, and they don't flip flop. They speak several languages and they are predictable in their actions and comments. They are also much more clear in their anti immigration message.

I would like to add that I don't think Trump rages against political correctness. He's just too stupid and unaware of the weight of some of his comments. As he ever spoken out against political correctness in a general manner similar to that of Bill Maher or Sam Harris?
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Jebus wrote:
knot wrote:
Jebus wrote:All European countries I can think of have their own Trump-like candidates (I'd say they're much smarter than Trump, though) -- the situation seems almost identical. Petry, Le Pen, Orban, Wilders, Farage etc.. They also stand to get around the same level of support (~20% of voters). It's just harder for them to become prime minister/president because we don't have the same 2-party system as the US. They also rage against all the same things as Trump: globalism, political correctness, Islam..
You pointed out the main difference, i.e. these people come across as intelligent. The European "Trumps" also come across as level headed, honest, and they don't flip flop. They speak several languages and they are predictable in their actions and comments. They are also much more clear in their anti immigration message.

I would like to add that I don't think Trump rages against political correctness. He's just to stupid and unaware of the weight of some of his comments. As he ever spoken out against political correctness in a general matter similar to that of Bill Maher or Sam Harris?
Trump voters would probably have preferred someone who stands for the same things, but is much smarter and better qualified, e.g. Nigel Farage. They just hate Hillary so much that the bar is set really low, and they're willing to see past basically anything.
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