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When I get home from school tomorrow, Donald Trump will be the President of the United States of America.

Tomorrow, in less than thirteen hours, Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the US President. When you google his name, it will say "President of the United States of America" or "45th U.S. President", not "President-elect of the United States of America".

I don't think anyone at all would have expected this outcome a year ago - wow. For most of the election, everybody thought he was an absolute joke. Nobody thought his lead would stick at first, and even when it did, nobody thought he would actually become President. But that's what's going to happen.

It's kind of unimaginable for me. I don't really remember anyone besides Barack Obama being the President. I barely remember being aware of George W. Bush being President during his term. Hillary Clinton would have been a change, but not such a drastic one like Donald Trump will be.

I still cannot believe that he is going to be the President. It's so... Crazy. I mean, he doesn't behave like a President or even like a mature adult. He, the man who is about to be the 45th President of the U.S. and leader of the free world, sued a comedian over a joke about him being part orangutan. He makes tweets about people in entertainment, like Meryl Streep, who he doesn't like. It just seems so crazy.

I'm trying to comprehend how this will play out. He will be President for four years. I will be in college, and he will still be the President. Wow.

Now that I'm thinking about how shitty that is, it's hard not to fantasize about President Sanders. I would probably be secretly dancing in my room right now. :lol: Wow... Imagine.
But that's not the reality. It's the exact opposite. Things aren't going to get a lot better, they are probably going to get a lot worse.

I guess I'm making this post for a few things-
1) I'm wondering what your reflections about the election are, now that it's truly over.
2) More importantly, I'm wondering what you think in general about the soon-to-be 45th President of the United States of America.
3) Also, maybe to make this horrible topic a little more fun, let's make predictions!

Here are mine -
I don't necessarily believe all of these will happen, but I think they're possible, and it'd be fun to look back on.
-United States sends more troops to ME
-US invades Iran because Trump cancels Iran deal
-Trump does not follow Paris climate agreement and other countries pull out as a result.
-Climate change worsens and coastal cities start flooding a lot more.
-Relations with Russia are more friendly
-The mainstream media largely complies w/Trump
-He intimidates journalists and passes laws restricting journalism
-Trump severely punished wistleblowers
-Trump doesn't pardon Snowden, and things become complicated due to better relations with Russia. Russia gives Snowden to US and Trump severely punishes him in a disturbingly unprecedented way.
-Trump doesn't try to repeal same sex marriage blatantly but appoints SCOTUS justices who may
-Trump repeals Obamacare and makes a terrible replacement that leaves many millions now without healthcare
-Trump becomes even more historically unpopular than he already is and does not get a second term
-Significant economic problems result from his policies
-Regulations are largely removed that protect the environment and people
-Nothing is done about what I believe is the most important issue from Trump, money in politics, because he didn't really mean it
-When Trump becomes really unpopular and is afraid he will lose power, he scapegoats minorities, and things may get very scary and horrible
-Trump does not build a real wall and Mexico does not pay for what he builds
-Trump backtracks on almost all of his campaign promises
-Trump pursues policies to benefit himself economically
-Trump is generally horrible for civil liberties
-More spying on citizens and abroad
-Guantanamo situation worsens and stays open
-US becomes less friendly with NATO as it becomes friendly with Russia
-Putin and Trump become blatant mouthpieces for each other
-Putin continues invading European countries, and Trump does nothing about it, even if they are in NATO
-Russia starts to become an empire and shit gets real, Trump does not stop them
-Trump aids Russia in its pursuits
-Russia and U.S. become imperial powers together, mostly led by Russia
-Putin continues to be Russian dictator throughout Trump's first (only) term

I might add more later (probably will).
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EquALLity wrote: I don't think anyone at all would have expected this outcome a year ago - wow. For most of the election, everybody thought he was an absolute joke. Nobody thought his lead would stick at first, and even when it did, nobody thought he would actually become President. But that's what's going to happen.
*cough* Nobody?
EquALLity wrote:It's kind of unimaginable for me. I don't really remember anyone besides Barack Obama being the President. I barely remember being aware of George W. Bush being President during his term. Hillary Clinton would have been a change, but not such a drastic one like Donald Trump will be.
Don't worry. It felt like the end of the world when Bush stole the election from Gore too. Life goes on, politics rebound, and the other side rallies. I've been on this train ride a few times, maybe I'm just motion sick.
EquALLity wrote:Things aren't going to get a lot better, they are probably going to get a lot worse.
In two years he'll likely lose the legislative branch. He may even flip flop and start signing in liberal legislation, who knows. I four years he'll probably lose the white house, and we'll have eight years of liberal leadership.

Those are my guesses.

I think he will strengthen ties with Russia, and he apparently does plan to build some kind of wall. He may start a trade war with China, which would be terrible. I doubt that he'll do very much else, healthcare is a difficult issue, I have a whole thread on that.
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Oh-hoho yes! Today is the day! The glory train is taking off, babe!

Don't worry about this whole thing; it likely won't affect your life, so it's nothing to cry over.
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brimstoneSalad wrote:
EquALLity wrote: I don't think anyone at all would have expected this outcome a year ago - wow. For most of the election, everybody thought he was an absolute joke. Nobody thought his lead would stick at first, and even when it did, nobody thought he would actually become President. But that's what's going to happen.
*cough* Nobody?
EquALLity wrote:It's kind of unimaginable for me. I don't really remember anyone besides Barack Obama being the President. I barely remember being aware of George W. Bush being President during his term. Hillary Clinton would have been a change, but not such a drastic one like Donald Trump will be.
Don't worry. It felt like the end of the world when Bush stole the election from Gore too. Life goes on, politics rebound, and the other side rallies. I've been on this train ride a few times, maybe I'm just motion sick.
EquALLity wrote:Things aren't going to get a lot better, they are probably going to get a lot worse.
In two years he'll likely lose the legislative branch. He may even flip flop and start signing in liberal legislation, who knows. I four years he'll probably lose the white house, and we'll have eight years of liberal leadership.

Those are my guesses.

I think he will strengthen ties with Russia, and he apparently does plan to build some kind of wall. He may start a trade war with China, which would be terrible. I doubt that he'll do very much else, healthcare is a difficult issue, I have a whole thread on that.
Wait, did you predict one of those things or something? Which one?

The day before the election, though - did you REALLY think he would win? And if you did, did it actually resonate with you that he would become President?

*Also, I didn't literally mean nobody, if course.

I get what you're trying to say, that under Bush life remained relatively of the same stability for most people. But from another perspective, it was the end of the world for hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, and a significant amount of people died from the Great Recession (though that wasn't solely his fault).

Thanks for your predictions. They're a bit less fantastical than mine, but I was also listing things I thought could happen but weren't necessarily likely that are particularly interesting. I don't actually think the US and Russia are going to become allied imperial powers, but it's definitely more likely than it was under Obama, and I think it's possible.
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EquALLity wrote: The day before the election, though - did you REALLY think he would win? And if you did, did it actually resonate with you that he would become President?
Didn't I convince you he had a good chance of winning and motivate your efforts in the last few days?
I thought I did.
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brimstoneSalad wrote:
EquALLity wrote: The day before the election, though - did you REALLY think he would win? And if you did, did it actually resonate with you that he would become President?
Didn't I convince you he had a good chance of winning and motivate your efforts in the last few days?
I thought I did.
You did now? :P
Well isn't that convenient. :D The way I remember it, I was trying to get YOU to make phone calls for the Hillary Clinton campaign, not the other way around. ;)

I thought he had a good chance of winning, and The Young Turks had analysis that influenced me about that. I'm not sure if it truly resonated with me, even after the election, that he would be President though. That's partly probably because Obama has been President basically as long as I can remember and because he's so different from other candidates (in his insanity).
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WHEN YOU GOOGLE HIS NAME IT SAYS 45TH U.S. PRESIDENT HDKEHWINEBWIWONWBH
The Young Republicans organized a non-partisan viewing of the inauguration. I would've gone, but I thought I'd miss three classes when I really only would've missed AP World, but oh well.

During AP World this girl was like "Donald Trump has just become President."
Me: "Ew."
And my teacher was saying how he's the President whether we like it or not (not in a shitty way, he was just saying).
Me: "He's the President, but it's ew."
:)

After class I googled his name and it said "45th U.S. President" and I died a little inside. And by a little I mean a lot. BIGLY a lot.
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The inaugural address had a very protectionist vibe. I hope he doesn't start a trade war like brimstone suggested...
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EquALLity wrote:The way I remember it, I was trying to get YOU to make phone calls for the Hillary Clinton campaign, not the other way around. ;)
I explained why I wasn't phone banking; it wasn't because I thought he didn't have a good chance of winning.
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brimstoneSalad wrote:
EquALLity wrote:The way I remember it, I was trying to get YOU to make phone calls for the Hillary Clinton campaign, not the other way around. ;)
I explained why I wasn't phone banking; it wasn't because I thought he didn't have a good chance of winning.
Yep, I know. I was just saying, I thought he had a chance.

By nobody I meant the general narrative and resonation.
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