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Do you, a free person, see Muslim females as slaves?

In the more right wing of Islam, females are what I would call slaves. I am prompted to think in that term because if I were a Muslim man living under Sharia, I can buy myself a few child brides. There is also little stopping me from doing the same, --- where Muslims live under Sharia law, --- in new adopted countries in the free world. Slavery returns to the West.

Fraternité, if I may remind the English speakers, means a fiduciary relationship to all other people. Slave is appropriate here. Fraternité and honesty also forces that I must look at Muslim females as slaves.

Do I, as a free man, have any responsibility to free these Muslim women, who inadvertently help propagate slavery by their lack of revolt against it?

The West also helps propagate slavery by allowing it into the West.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtY5bv-oxLE

If I, as a free man, hold a responsibility to free slaves, as a free person, do you?

How much tolerance should tolerant nations give to a huge slave trading religion and government system?

Regards
DL

Hi. Have you read the thread on hijabs?

DarlBundren wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:09 pm Hi. Have you read the thread on hijabs?

No, although I have posted against all the veils that Muslim men force their women to wear.

To me, those veils are the same as wearing a slave collar with the slave owners name on it.

I will see if I can find the thread you referred to.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:48 pm Do you, a free person, see Muslim females as slaves?

It really depends on the country. In 80% of the world, no, of course not. In the other 20% percent of the world; I tried to ask them, but they were all stoned for talking to a man who is not their husband or relative.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:48 pm Do I, as a free man, have any responsibility to free these Muslim women, who inadvertently help propagate slavery by their lack of revolt against it?

Just to be clear, I think ALL organized religions are pure BS. "Why do you believe this?"---"My parents told me!" or even better, "Why do you believe this?"--- "My parents told me about another make believe land, but I don't like my parents, and this person (who totally gets me) told me about another make believe land that makes my parents mad!" So I think they're all bogus.

In the countries you are referring to, where yes, I agree, women are slaves, they do not have access to the resources you and I have. They can't research the origin of their religion, or blab on Facebook with their friends, because they aren't even allowed to read.

Your question seems to place blame on them for not revolting, but they are not allowed to communicate without a man allowing them to go to a place with other women. When you are married off at puberty and have children to care for before an age when most of the world is allowed to even vote in the first place, it's hard to say "Gee husband, I wish I could go outside without a veil, please don't murder me or the children for my insolence." Plus, there are likely men in these same areas who have no desire to enslave women, but if they bring that up.."Well, I don't want to sell my daughter to you, but my six other children will starve if I don't, so I'll take your 15 goats " or "I would mention maybe we shouldn't beat our wives, but the Koran says it OK, and those 20 guys with the guns say I should do what the Koran says, so.."

It's a sticky widget, mate.

It is a sticky situation for sure, but if the Western citizens do not recognize that bought and paid for Muslim females are slaves, and start naming them as such, we do all Muslims a disservice by political correctness.

Regards
DL