Exclamations for Atheists "oh my god" etc.?
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:03 pm
Hey guys, as an atheist, should I use exclamations like "Oh my God!" or "Jesus Christ!"? I feel as though it doesn't make any sense.
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Why not say my name? I think the above exclamations sound stupid regardless of who says them. If a Christian uses them they are violating the third commandment, and if a non Christian says them they are demonstrating that they don't put any thought into their language use.
Jebus doesn't sound right. Again, neither do the other exclamations. Maybe Gee Willikers would do.Jebus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:06 pmWhy not say my name? I think the above exclamations sound stupid regardless of who says them. If a Christian uses them they are violating the third commandment, and if a non Christian says them they are demonstrating that they don't put any thought into their language use.
I feel like "jebus" or "gosh" probably sounds better, since it's a silly replacement.
I've actually never heard anyone say "adieu" in French. I think it's an old word that is disappearing possibly due to the secularization of France and the other European French speaking areas. "Adios" is still commonly used and this is probably because the Spanish speaking nations remain religious. In Austria the common greeting is "gruss Gott" (greet God). I don't know if it's slowly being replaced by "guten tag" as Austria is secularizing. Perhaps someone from Austria can answer that.brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:17 pmgoodbye in Spanish, French, Italian, and some other romance languages literally means "with god", an in "go with god".
How far do we take it?
Yeah, but I feel as though that kills the impact it could have. Like arbitrarily putting swear words in sentences.brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:17 pm I feel like "jebus" or "gosh" probably sounds better, since it's a silly replacement.
It's not like they have a choice; It's probably awkward doing that in a secular environment.brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:17 pmBut goodbye in Spanish, French, Italian, and some other romance languages literally means "with god", an in "go with god".
How far do we take it?
There's a lot of religious stuff embedded into culture and language, and "ableist" and speciesist stuff, etc.
Off to stab this video out of my skull (once again).
You're right - It's disappearing. It now feels too definitive and old-fashioned. I'd translate it as "I commend you to god" ( A+ diós, A+dieu, A+ddio = to+god ) or even "god willing", "Inshallah" and so on. To be honest, I don't know if it (only) has to do with the secularization of Europe. If you say "Adieu" you're basically telling your interlocutor that whether you'll meet again or not doesn't really depend on you. Not surprisingly, it is still used when you get really mad at someone and don't want to see them anymore (if you break up with your girlfriend, for example). "So long". "Au revoir," "hasta la vista" and "arrivederci" (basically, "see you later") are much friendlier since they all imply that you are going to meet again soon.Jebus wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:20 amI've actually never heard anyone say "adieu" in French. I think it's an old word that is disappearing possibly due to the secularization of France and the other European French speaking areas. "Adios" is still commonly used and this is probably because the Spanish speaking nations remain religious. In Austria the common greeting is "gruss Gott" (greet God). I don't know if it's slowly being replaced by "guten tag" as Austria is secularizing. Perhaps someone from Austria can answer that.brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:17 pmgoodbye in Spanish, French, Italian, and some other romance languages literally means "with god", an in "go with god".
How far do we take it?
On another note, most forum users will never see this discussion. Why didn't you (Red) start a new thread with this question?