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Dawkins' Scale

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What would you rank on the Dawkins' scale? I would between a 6 and a 7.
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There ya go.

I am most definitely a 6.
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I always prefer to make a distinction between theism and deism. Theism generally makes contradictory claims where we actually have empirical data that says the opposite. Deism is a position that at this time doesn't have a method of verification or falsification, which makes it more complex to speak against (although deism is pretty much only obtained by an argument from ignorance).

So I would say:
Very close to 7 for theism (since 100% doesn't exist).
And a 6 for deism—it seems very improbable on philosophical grounds.
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id say 6
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because there is empirical evidence against a theist god, witch is what this scale is referring to I would have to place myself as 6.75. the question is dam near seaming nonsensical to me.
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This question is unanswerable, because "god" is undefined.

If you're talking about the god of classical theism, omni-everything, based on scripture called infallible, then 7.
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Where would you place yourself if the question was whether you think that reality is actually a computer simulation? There can arguably be made a more reasonable case than a case for an eternal God.
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Volenta wrote:Where would you place yourself if the question was whether you think that reality is actually a computer simulation? There can arguably be made a more reasonable case than a case for an eternal God.
In that case, 6 seems fine.
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6 for me
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Volenta wrote:Where would you place yourself if the question was whether you think that reality is actually a computer simulation? There can arguably be made a more reasonable case than a case for an eternal God.
6 too. I don't think I will ever get to 7 on anything.
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