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increasing rhetoric against atheists

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:16 am
by Jebus

Re: increasing rhetoric against atheists

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:39 am
by brimstoneSalad
Nuamat Sati, in charge of Egypt’s campaign at the Ministry of Youth
The campaign has two goals. The first is to spread awareness concerning the dangers of atheism and how it creates a threat to society, as well as the controversial issues that might push the youth to atheism. The second is to treat this phenomenon by having a dialogue with atheists and giving them a chance to reconsider their decisions and go back to their religion.
A chance to reconsider? Really? Before you start a campaign of extermination, I guess?

Are we on our way to a new holocaust in the Islamic world, do you think?

Re: increasing rhetoric against atheists

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:11 am
by brimstoneSalad
OK, the report listing China as "Grave Violations" makes me a bit skeptical.

They had to stretch to list it. China has plenty of religious discrimination, but not against atheists.

They found these two reasons:
It is illegal to register
an explicitly Humanist,
atheist, secularist or
other non-religious
NGO or other human
rights organization, or
such groups are
persecuted by
authorities
No, it's illegal to advocate political positions or topics without approval. Human rights are incidentally political, particularly in China, but it would be very easy to simply advocate atheism without getting into the politics of human rights.

And the main human rights issues they're not allowed to attack is the persecution of religions (not atheism).

It's also hard for people to register companies or NGOs in China, period, because of their system. That's a completely different matter.

If that's what they call persecution...
Expression of core
Humanist principles on
democracy, freedom
and human rights is
brutally repressed
Brutally? There are a hand full of people in prison (leadership positions) for criticizing the Chinese government on human rights matters.

Most people just get their social media accounts banned today.

If that's brutal, they need to find another word for what other countries do. They're setting the bar pretty low with that one.
And looking at comparisons with other countries they merely called severe, there seems to be some monkey business going on here.

They should have (if not biased) gone with the categories below that, but I'm not a fan of their ranking system, particularly for China since it's not a good representation.

Much less discrimination against atheists in China than in North America or Europe.

Re: increasing rhetoric against atheists

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:57 pm
by Jebus