Question: Should I Create This Video (Muhammed Drawings)?

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Question: Should I Create This Video (Muhammed Drawings)?

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Hi,
in response to the terrorist attack in Paris I had the idea to create a video with fan contributed art depicting criticism of Islam, the terrorist attacks and Muhammed. I have collected enough drawings to create the video I had in mind, however after a dialogue Ive engaged in on a youtube video has put some doubt in me if I should proceed.

I have always felt pretty comfortable expressing myself on youtube, knowing that my private life is separate from my youtube presence. I am careful to keep my identity private so that I can express myself without fear of real world violence and economic harm. The youtuber with whom I had a discussion today thought I shouldn't do the video, because
1) it showcases graphic negative depictions of Islam/Muhammed (often with a lot of penises... for some strange reason) and this would entice rage in more radical Muslims
2) while my other videos critiquing Islam and the Quran are not quite as inflammatory.
3) My anonymity online is not as protected as I thought (someone can post a false DMCA and gain my personal information from google).

What are your thoughts? Are these points (especially #3) something I should be concerned with? Should I proceed with the making of the video? Any feedback would be helpful.
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TheVeganAtheist wrote: 3) My anonymity online is not as protected as I thought (someone can post a false DMCA and gain my personal information from google).
That's concerning. Is there any way to start a Youtube channel without giving Google your information? Is it just for payment on ad revenue?
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Re: Question: Should I Create This Video (Muhammed Drawings)

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brimstoneSalad wrote:
TheVeganAtheist wrote: 3) My anonymity online is not as protected as I thought (someone can post a false DMCA and gain my personal information from google).
That's concerning. Is there any way to start a Youtube channel without giving Google your information? Is it just for payment on ad revenue?
Im not sure. Perhaps if you didnt plan on making any revenue off of the channel you might be able to get away with it.
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Re: Question: Should I Create This Video (Muhammed Drawings)

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I think it's very important that we don't self-censor, and that we maintain our freedom of speech. Ideally, we spread the risk on as many people as possible. Personally, I've heavily critized Islam openly and shared the most offensive Charlie Hebdo cartoons online the last few days, but what you're planning to do seems sigificantly "worse" (better). Only you can make the assessment of whether or not it's too dangerous. We can't really predict how these psychotic man-children will react to anything. I definitely wouldn't hold it against you if don't do it, but at least hand the drawings over to someone else then (The Amazing Atheist is doing the same thing, I believe)

Maybe to put things into perspective, TAA and Thunderf00t have blasphemed and bashed Islam many times over the years, and they both have their real names revealed. They have both suggested people to join the draw Muhammad day, and TAA has done a live video of him drawing Muhammad, while ridiculing the religion. TF has set fire to a harddrive with 50000 copies of the Qu'ran on it.
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we cannot keep cowing down to religious bullshit. make the video.
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Re: Question: Should I Create This Video (Muhammed Drawings)

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That is a tough pill to swallow.
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Re: Question: Should I Create This Video (Muhammed Drawings)

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I'd advise against it. To value our rational arguments over intentionally offending is the way to go in my opinion. There is little to be gained by having more Muhammed drawings.
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Re: Question: Should I Create This Video (Muhammed Drawings)

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But we're dealing with people who place no value on logic and rationality.

If you want to stand in solidarity with the cartoonists, the only thing to do is make more offensive cartoons. Judging by statements made by the editor's widow and the message in the newest Charlie Hebdo magazine, it seems that the dead cartoonists wouldn't have cared for any of the holding hands, or any of the signs with "Je suis Charlie" written on them. People never helped them when they were struggling to maintain their right to offend. Personally, I find basically all Muhammad drawings to be unfunny and in bad taste. But that's not really the point. The right to offend and mock is an important tool against totlitarianism, and is one of the pillars of free, democratic societies. Right now, the western world is drowning in political correctness, and we'll end up paying the price for that sooner or later.

I wouldn't mind publishing TVA's cartoons myself, though I don't have an audience
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Re: Question: Should I Create This Video (Muhammed Drawings)

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Thank you for all your feedback, however I will unfortunately refrain from doing this video. I don't like the fact that I am, but I don't want to take any unnecessary risks with my life and that of my family. I will continue to do my other series, and critique religions, but I will not openly mock Islam.
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This website is not a secure website either at all ... I would not do it all ...
It's easy to hack

you should look into getting SSL for your website

youtube is SSL if you look and see that little keypad lock in the URL browser that is how you know a website is secure and those should be the only websites that you share credit card/ personal info with
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