My Vegan Database + A Call for Help

[zollied]

Over the last two months I have been creating a public google doc that serves as a database for animal advocates. I would appreciate it if you guys could check it out. However, I need help building a stronger argument for veganism on the subject of nutrition. Even in the face of evidence from health organizations like the WHO, the AND, and other sources I have linked in my google doc, some people still question whether a vegan diet can adequately meet all of human nutrition needs.

The main vegan argument rests on the following two statements:
1. Animals are sentient and capable of suffering.
2. A well-planned vegan diet can meet all of human nutritional needs

If even one of these points is faulty, the entire vegan argument comes crashing down. For the most part, people do not question point #1. Point #2 receives much more criticism. This is why animal advocates should focus on addressing common counter arguments to this point.

COMMON ANTIVEGAN ARGUMENTS:

a. Organizational statements on vegan diets like those from the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics(AND) are based in epidemiology and opinions and are therefore not strong science.

b. That antivegan copypasta of organizational statements that recommend against vegan diets for children, pregnant women, and lactating women.

c. We don't know all nutrients that humans need. Therefore, it's best to include animal products in our diet. Otherwise, we risk missing certain unknown nutrients.

d. Supplements bad.


It is important that we address these in an empirical manner. Any research papers or ideas of how to respond to these?

[thebestofenergy]

Hey Zollied, it's a good idea to open a source of information for vegans and non-vegans to go to.

We have our own Wiki: wiki
It's covering all the subjects related to veganism, from nutrition, to ethics, to food and recipes, and more.
We're already working on and having our hands full with adding stuff and improving our own Wiki.

If you wanted to, you could start discussions on subjects that interest you, and eventually you could work with us.

Please feel free to check the Wiki out, and let us know what you think.

[zollied]

Hey Zollied, it's a good idea to open a source of information for vegans and non-vegans to go to.

We have our own Wiki: http://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki
It's covering all the subjects related to veganism, from nutrition, to ethics, to food and recipes, and more.
We're already working on and having our hands full with adding stuff and improving our own Wiki.

If you wanted to, you could start discussions on subjects that interest you, and eventually you could work with us.

Please feel free to check the Wiki out, and let us know what you think.

Hi, I'm very new to this forum so I didn't know that wiki existed. I have only skimmed through it so far, but it looks fantastic! It answers some of my questions. I mainly posted this to get a discussion going and to understand what people think of counter arguments like these. It's no problem that you can't add to it right now. Feel free to use the sources in my google doc in your wiki. It would be awesome to work with you guys in the future.

[Red]

Hey Zollied, it's a good idea to open a source of information for vegans and non-vegans to go to.

We have our own Wiki: http://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki
It's covering all the subjects related to veganism, from nutrition, to ethics, to food and recipes, and more.
We're already working on and having our hands full with adding stuff and improving our own Wiki.

If you wanted to, you could start discussions on subjects that interest you, and eventually you could work with us.

Please feel free to check the Wiki out, and let us know what you think.

Hi, I'm very new to this forum so I didn't know that wiki existed. I have only skimmed through it so far, but it looks fantastic! It answers some of my questions. I mainly posted this to get a discussion going and to understand what people think of counter arguments like these. It's no problem that you can't add to it right now. Feel free to use the sources in my google doc in your wiki. It would be awesome to work with you guys in the future.

You can add some if you want too! It's just a couple of us adding to the Wiki, and we can use all the help we can get.
Also make sure to grant permission:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3335

You too @thebestofenergy

[zollied]

Hey Zollied, it's a good idea to open a source of information for vegans and non-vegans to go to.

We have our own Wiki: http://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki
It's covering all the subjects related to veganism, from nutrition, to ethics, to food and recipes, and more.
We're already working on and having our hands full with adding stuff and improving our own Wiki.

If you wanted to, you could start discussions on subjects that interest you, and eventually you could work with us.

Please feel free to check the Wiki out, and let us know what you think.

Hi, I'm very new to this forum so I didn't know that wiki existed. I have only skimmed through it so far, but it looks fantastic! It answers some of my questions. I mainly posted this to get a discussion going and to understand what people think of counter arguments like these. It's no problem that you can't add to it right now. Feel free to use the sources in my google doc in your wiki. It would be awesome to work with you guys in the future.

You can add some if you want too! It's just a couple of us adding to the Wiki, and we can use all the help we can get.
Also make sure to grant permission:
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3335

You too @thebestofenergy

I granted permission. How would I go about adding to the Wiki? I made an account but am not sure how to add things. I'm pretty new to this so please bear with me lol.

[Red]

I granted permission. How would I go about adding to the Wiki? I made an account but am not sure how to add things. I'm pretty new to this so please bear with me lol.

Well I think we need to let the moderator approve first, then you can create an account and edit.