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Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:04 pm

Hi, I am new to the forum. I am an atheist and I was "muslim" before or you could say I tried many religion before just to know how it feels to be part of them. I did believe in god before but not anymore. Now I believe in science which is knowledge about or study of the natural world based on facts learned through experiments and observation (for those who doesn't know). I am not a vegan but it is something that I would want to try.

Things that I like are: Art, music, anime/manga, culture, language, cooking and drawing.

Well, I guess that's all for my introduction.

Red · Post by **Red** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:14 pm

hello Patrick, maybe you can learn a thing or two around here.

brimstoneSalad · Post by **brimstoneSalad** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:05 pm

Hi Patrick, welcome!

Actually, science is all about the scientific method. It's not just experiment or observation, but specifically those using the scientific method which controls for human bias and variables (without which, an experiment or observation is not science, and is not scientific knowledge).

Science is basically the opposite of most religion. Where religion codifies human bias, science seeks to eliminate it and find objective truth, regardless of opinion or preconception.

Jebus · Post by **Jebus** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:06 am

Welcome Patrick. Did you actually believe in these religions while you were trying them? Good luck trying veganism. If it goes well it will be the most important change you ever make.

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:04 am

Jebus wrote:Welcome Patrick. Did you actually believe in these religions while you were trying them? Good luck trying veganism. If it goes well it will be the most important change you ever make.

Yes, I did believe in those religion while trying them but I don't believe in any religion anymore. Yeah I hope it will go well!

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:06 am

brimstoneSalad wrote:Hi Patrick, welcome!

Actually, science is all about the scientific method. It's not just experiment or observation, but specifically those using the scientific method which controls for human bias and variables (without which, an experiment or observation is not science, and is not scientific knowledge).

Science is basically the opposite of most religion. Where religion codifies human bias, science seeks to eliminate it and find objective truth, regardless of opinion or preconception.

Okay, thanks for telling me.

brimstoneSalad · Post by **brimstoneSalad** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:43 am

Patrick wrote: Okay, thanks for telling me.

No problem, just wanted to clarify details for ya. Kind of a forest vs. trees thing.

May I ask, what drew you to Islam?

EquALLity · Post by **EquALLity** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:44 am

Hello!

Maybe you should check out the guide Neptual posted on how to vegan in the 'Vegan Support Forum'.

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:11 pm

brimstoneSalad wrote:
Patrick wrote: Okay, thanks for telling me.
No problem, just wanted to clarify details for ya. Kind of a forest vs. trees thing.

May I ask, what drew you to Islam?

Islam was pretty popular so I was curious to know about it and ended up believing in it for a while until I started to question myself about it and then I stopped believing in this religion because it doesn't really made sense to me.

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:12 pm

EquALLity wrote:Hello!

Maybe you should check out the guide Neptual posted on how to vegan in the 'Vegan Support Forum'.

Okay, I will see it. Thanks.

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