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I'm Silvia, vegan for 10 years, previously vegetarian for 1 year. I am interested in what motivates people to go vegan and how we can change the world!

silcp wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:52 am I'm Silvia, vegan for 10 years, previously vegetarian for 1 year. I am interested in what motivates people to go vegan and how we can change the world!

What motivated me to go vegetarian is when my mother went to prison back when I was 16 (five years ago). Everybody around me was convincing me that that could not happen... yet it happened. So, if everybody around me was wrong about that, why should I listen to them about their dietary advice which makes no sense?

Hello Silvia!
What motivated you to go vegan? For most of us it was ethics, then as we learned more about it we also support environmental and health arguments.

There are many things we can do to change the world, but it depends on what you're more skilled at.

Thanks Red and Teo! That's very interesting.
For me I think it was just realising that animals have to suffer simply for food choices (and clothing etc). It's hard to explain, but although I kind of always knew, as soon as I thought about it, it made no sense anymore...

silcp wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:06 am Thanks Red and Teo! That's very interesting.
For me I think it was just realising that animals have to suffer simply for food choices (and clothing etc). It's hard to explain, but although I kind of always knew, as soon as I thought about it, it made no sense anymore...

I think most of us, even as children being raised to eat meat, something just doesn't sit right when we remember an animal had to die for it.

Red wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:44 pm

silcp wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:06 am Thanks Red and Teo! That's very interesting.
For me I think it was just realising that animals have to suffer simply for food choices (and clothing etc). It's hard to explain, but although I kind of always knew, as soon as I thought about it, it made no sense anymore...

I think most of us, even as children being raised to eat meat, something just doesn't sit right when we remember an animal had to die for it.

Though, the same is true for many things. When we think about the Earth being round, something just does not sit right. When we think about airplanes existing, something just does not sit right. And so on...

teo123 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:09 pm

Red wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:44 pm

silcp wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:06 am Thanks Red and Teo! That's very interesting.
For me I think it was just realising that animals have to suffer simply for food choices (and clothing etc). It's hard to explain, but although I kind of always knew, as soon as I thought about it, it made no sense anymore...

I think most of us, even as children being raised to eat meat, something just doesn't sit right when we remember an animal had to die for it.

Though, the same is true for many things. When we think about the Earth being round, something just does not sit right. When we think about airplanes existing, something just does not sit right. And so on...

Well because you're a moron, but for the rest of us, no. We're told from a very young age murder is wrong. We are also told that airplanes exist and the earth is not flat.

Red wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:24 pm

teo123 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:09 pm

Red wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:44 pm
I think most of us, even as children being raised to eat meat, something just doesn't sit right when we remember an animal had to die for it.

Though, the same is true for many things. When we think about the Earth being round, something just does not sit right. When we think about airplanes existing, something just does not sit right. And so on...

Well because you're a moron, but for the rest of us, no. We're told from a very young age murder is wrong. We are also told that airplanes exist and the earth is not flat.

Everybody is a moron. Some people just specialize one thing to study for the rest of their lives, so they stop being morons about that one thing, but they are still morons about other things.
What point are you trying to make with "We are told from a very young age..."? We are being told from a very young age meat is healthy and that God exists, that does not increase the probability of those things being right.

teo123 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:56 pm Everybody is a moron.

In your case you're a moron compared to everyone else.

teo123 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:56 pmSome people just specialize one thing to study for the rest of their lives, so they stop being morons about that one thing, but they are still morons about other things.

There is a difference between ignorance and being a moron. You are an extreme combination of the two.

teo123 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:56 pmWhat point are you trying to make with "We are told from a very young age..."? We are being told from a very young age meat is healthy and that God exists, that does not increase the probability of those things being right.

As always, you miss the point. We're told that murder is wrong, yet we're fed meat, which had to involve the killing of the animal. Figure it out.

Red wrote:There is a difference between ignorance and being a moron.

And what is that difference? Is a "moron" like an "ignorant person who thinks and comes to seemingly-plausible conclusions which may or may not be right", or?